Copyright Modernization Act Now in Effect

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I guess I don't understand this very well either.
Previously, the part you got in trouble for was the sharing/uploading of copyright content, not the download part - so torrenting could get you in trouble.

If I understand this new law correctly, a person who uses, for example, XBMC to stream content from online sources could be subject to penalty now?

I have sat in many MPAA security audits over the years and was friendly with one of our senior security experts that eventually went over to the MPAA. With talking to him you basically have to have a physical copy of the copyrighted material for them to do anything. So a PC, SAN, drive somewhere with the copy on it. With streaming all they can prove is that you visited a website and data was transferred. Also, they can only charge the person that owns the device that has the physical copy. If you had a household of 10 people you can't charge them all. So in the case of something like XBMC it is not worth their while to go after the end user but the servers that hold the copyrighted material. Most of these are over seas where the laws are different but a lot of countries are slowing updating their laws to be similar to the US and Canada. I know Spain just did something this past week and a number of sites have shut down.

[Azure]

VPNs in Canada are going to get hammered. Why would anyone use them they have to keep logs for 6 months? There are lots of other options that claim to never keep logs.

Either way, this won't change much. Pirating will still continue until the media companies realize that they need to move to a streaming option like Netflix or Spotify if they want to shut pirating down.

[Azure]

Just like I figured. Canadian VPNs talking about moving their services out of country to avoid the new laws. Good job government! Way to be business friendly!

http://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services...rivacy-150107/

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Azure

Just like I figured. Canadian VPNs talking about moving their services out of country to avoid the new laws. Good job government! Way to be business friendly!

http://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services...rivacy-150107/

umm, if these VPN companies are moving as a result of a new copyright protection law the government is protecting business.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by nik-

umm, if these VPN companies are moving as a result of a new copyright protection law the government is protecting business.

It's only friendly when it serves my interest!

[Azure]

Originally Posted by nik-

umm, if these VPN companies are moving as a result of a new copyright protection law the government is protecting business.

VPNs almost always function on the basis that they won't keep logs. People use them because they want privacy. Requiring by law that they keep logs from 6 months basically makes sure that no VPN will operate in Canada.

The government knew this when they signed the bill into law.

[photon]

Wow, didn't take long for the US guys to begin sending out their pay us or die notices.

Canada’s new copyright notice-and-notice system has been in place for less than a week, but rights holders are already exploiting a loophole to send demands for payment citing false legal information. Earlier this week, a Canadian ISP forwarded to me a sample notice it received from Rightscorp on behalf of BMG Rights Management.

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The notice falsely warns that the recipient could be liable for up to $150,000 per infringement when the reality is that Canadian law caps liability for non-commercial infringement at $5,000 for all infringements. The notice also warns that the user’s Internet service could be suspended, yet there is no such provision under Canadian law. Moreover, given the existence of the private copying system (which features levies on blank media such as CDs), personal music downloads may qualify as private copying and therefore be legal in Canada.

In addition to misstating Canadian law, the notice is instructive for what it does not say. While a recipient might fear a lawsuit with huge liability, there is very little likelihood of a lawsuit given that Rightscorp and BMG do not have the personal information of the subscriber. To obtain that information, they would need a court order, which can be a very expensive proposition. Moreover, this is merely an allegation that would need to be proven in court (assuming the rights holder is able to obtain a court order for the subscriber information).

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2015/01/r...yment-demands/

[Krovikan]

Originally Posted by photon

Wow, didn't take long for the US guys to begin sending out their pay us or die notices.



http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2015/01/r...yment-demands/

Isn't this illegal?

[photon]

Only if you get a judgement against you.

[Krovikan]

Originally Posted by photon

Only if you get a judgement against you.

No I mean miss represent the law to extort money?

[photon]

Originally Posted by cdutka

No I mean miss represent the law to extort money?

Sorry meant that it's only illegal if the extortionist gets a judgement against them (being facetious). They don't care what's legal, only what they can get away with.

[Galakanokis]

Stuff like that has been going on for awhile. I'd have to look up Rightscorp but I'm sure it's the same company I dealt with years ago and they ran this scam with the record industry first. Basically they send out emails en masse hoping to get a few to stick. At one point they worked for the riaa but for the boot when they were sending G out claims to deceased people. Have to look for the details but they run the scam and then change their name rinse and repeat.

[Krovikan]

Ya but with so much attention on the new law seems like a really dumb thing to do.

[Russic]

So if you get a letter like that is there an action you should take, or just ignore like fire?

[Azure]

Anyone else get an email yet? My ISP sent me one the other day.

Ignore just like the ISPs have been ignoring for years. Nobody gives a damn what the MPAA thinks. Nor should they.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Stuff like that has been going on for awhile. I'd have to look up Rightscorp but I'm sure it's the same company I dealt with years ago and they ran this scam with the record industry first. Basically they send out emails en masse hoping to get a few to stick. At one point they worked for the riaa but for the boot when they were sending G out claims to deceased people. Have to look for the details but they run the scam and then change their name rinse and repeat.

Yup. They basically watch sites or torrent swarms and any IP that comes up as being involved they target the ISPs. Hell, they've been known to send emails even if you're not actually doing anything. Your IP was part of a subnet that had one IP that was downloading and you still get a letter.

Talking to some ISPs, they just ignored the emails up till now, but will now forward them. Not that anyone cares of course what they say.

[robaur]

January-09-15

Dear Subscriber

Content owners that hold property rights for material such as movies, music and other content, actively monitor Internet activity to protect their rights. We have been notified by a content owner that your Internet Protocol (IP) address has been associated with suspected copyright infringement. As part of new Canadian copyright legislation*, we are obliged to forward to you the attached copy of the content owner?s notice. We are unaware of the full details and merit of this infringement claim. If you have questions concerning this matter, please contact the content owner directly - contact information is listed in the attached notice.

Infringement of copyright laws may result in the content owner pursuing remedies available under applicable laws to protect its interests. We encourage enabling secured passwords on your home Wi-Fi network if you have one to avoid unauthorized use of your Internet connection.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Please see the link below for more information:
http://balancedcopyright.gc.ca/eic/s...a.nsf/eng/home

Sincerely,

Shaw Cablesystems G.P.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Notice of Unauthorized Use of Starz Entertainment, LLC ("Starz") Property
Notice ID: 314-265840506
Notice Date: 07 Jan 2015 07:43:49 GMT

Shaw Communications Inc.

Dear Sir or Madam:

Irdeto USA, Inc. (hereinafter referred to as "Irdeto") swears under penalty of perjury that Starz has authorized Irdeto to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. Irdeto's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Starz copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report. Irdeto has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Starz, its agents, or the law.

Irdeto has reasonable good faith belief that Starz its agents, or the law does not authorize use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report.

The Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Universal Copyright Convention, as well as bilateral treaties with other countries allow for protection of client's copyrighted work even beyond U.S. borders. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the infringement.

We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others Starz materials in the future.

Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.

Please send us a prompt response indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter, making sure to reference the Notice ID number above in your response.

If you do not wish to reply by email, please use our Web Interface by clicking on the following link: http://webreply.copyright-compliance...8be73ef6d8caa0

Note: If your email program has inserted line breaks into either the email or web links above, you can copy and paste the entire link into your email program, or favorite web browser, respectively.

Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Starz with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the below address.

Regards,

Andrew Beck
Irdeto USA, Inc.
1741 Technology Drive Suite 130 San Jose, CA 95110
Phone: 408-492-8546 fax: 408-727-6743

*pgp public key is available on the key server at http://pgp.mit.edu

Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers.

This infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data. If you would like more information on how to use this tag please contact Irdeto.

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 314-265840506
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 28 Oct 2014 21:46:48 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 07 Jan 2015 07:26:21 GMT
Infringers IP Address: xxxxxxxxxdx
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Power
Infringing File Name: Power.2014.S01E06.720p.HDTV.x264-KILLERS[rartv]
Infringing File Size: 1147674624
Bay ID: 76237425157ffb0ce83e7518e8b7b6f30ff3a7a7|114767462 4
Port ID: 51164

[robaur]

Wtf do I do??

This is some complete bull####.

[photon]

At least they're not trying to extort money out of you like some others do.

With respect to the email, if it were me I wouldn't do anything. At this point they only have an IP address; that's it. If you contact them you are going to voluntarily provide them with additional information (even if it's just to confirm your IP address was in the torrent, they could just be shooting in the dark).

I also wouldn't call it complete bull####, unless you didn't actually download the torrent.

[Flash Walken]

Also the 'offense' is from before that activity was illegal.

Retroactive prosecution

Edit: I see the recent activity, Idon't see why there is 'initial activity'