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Old 11-27-2014, 10:04 PM   #41
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I'm a bit confused and a bit slow so bare with me (wait, is it bear with me...? hm).

This is supposed to be a reboot and twist of the original story, or this is another in the storyline. I know the OP said it isn't a sequel, but just clarifying what exactly the intent here is? A little bit confusing as the trailer looked extremely similar to the original, so I'm assuming this is a reboot with a twist (hybrid dinosaur angle).
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:06 PM   #42
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If you look at it they kind of burned through the real bad a$$ dinos in the first three

First movie - Raptors and T-Rex.

Second movie - Raptors and T-Rex's and flying dinosaurs

Third movie - Raptors and Spinosaur (largest carnivore of all time)

So I guess a genetic freak is where they have to go.

Diplodocus bro cmon
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:10 PM   #43
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Plus whoever was worried about crappy CGI, I heard they saw how well the "real" blood on walking dead crowd tested and are using real dinosaurs. Just rumors tho
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:29 PM   #44
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I'm a bit confused and a bit slow so bare with me (wait, is it bear with me...? hm).

This is supposed to be a reboot and twist of the original story, or this is another in the storyline. I know the OP said it isn't a sequel, but just clarifying what exactly the intent here is? A little bit confusing as the trailer looked extremely similar to the original, so I'm assuming this is a reboot with a twist (hybrid dinosaur angle).
My understanding is its sort of both. Reboot with a twist but it recognizes the events of the the JP movies. I've read they call it a re-invention.

Follows a real time scale (22 years after the original Park incident) and Hammond's company, InGen was bought by a different genetics corporation, Masrani, this one more set on a theme park angle rather than a dinosaur preserve. I guess they eventually regain control of the island and rebuild the park. It's set on Isla Nublar, the island from the first movie, and not Isla Sorna like in the other 2.

Also looks like another element that's been added is having tamed/trained Dino's. The Velociraptors for example seem to be used to help track and hunt the genetic hybrid. And there's someone in the movie credited as a dinosaur tamer. Could mean more Dino v Dino fights. I've always wanted a pet Velociraptor.

I've also done some more reading on this so called genetic hybrid. The director had some comments that settled some of my fears. He said it's sort of expanded on some elements touched on in the original book, where Dr Wu talks about genetically changing the dinosaurs to make them more appealing in a theme park angle. Slowing them down for safety reasons was one I remember from the book. Except in this movie, they go the other way. They want a more exciting dinosaur. Faster, smarter, more teeth, etc. And they get what they want. Until it proves smarter than they thought, and escapes.

So it takes more of a sci-fi angle, much like the books author has done throughout his career. Actually makes me feel a lot better about it.

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Calling an Apatosaurus a Brontosaurus is something no paleontologist or scientist would do. It's just part of the uneducated lexicon.

http://www.livescience.com/25093-apatosaurus.html

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Old 11-28-2014, 11:46 AM   #46
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Calling an Apatosaurus a Brontosaurus is something no paleontologist or scientist would do. It's just part of the uneducated lexicon.

http://www.livescience.com/25093-apatosaurus.html

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n 1903, Elmer Riggs' re-examination of Marsh's specimens led him to conclude that they represented the same genus (although see below), meaning that the names were synonyms. In such cases, the ICZN (International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature, see www.iczn.org) mandates that the oldest name has priority - which means that the rather dull Apatosaurus (``deceptive lizard'') wins out over the much more resonant ``Brontosaurus'' (``thunder lizard'').
Synonyms you see! Not part of the 'uneducated lexicon' but rather part of the 'language you can use when not writing on a scientific paper i.e. posting on a message board.'



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http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/faq/s-class/bronto/
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Old 11-28-2014, 06:46 PM   #47
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It could have been something natural like

Mosasaurus



or a

Liopleurodon



maybe even a

Tylosaurus

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Calling an Apatosaurus a Brontosaurus is something no paleontologist or scientist would do. It's just part of the uneducated lexicon.

http://www.livescience.com/25093-apatosaurus.html
Thanks since I'm neither a palentologist or scientist I'm going to respond with a rousing who gives a good god damn
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Old 11-29-2014, 06:26 AM   #49
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Where are all the feathers??
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Those things with long necks will always be brontosauraus to me, damned if I care! I will teach my kids that as well just to keep the pissing off of basement dwellers alive and well in the future!
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Stanley and the Dinosaurs p1 of 2: http://youtu.be/G6X1ZnMM3nM
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'Or'? I thought paleontologists are scientists.

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Director said there will be no feathered dinos
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Old 11-29-2014, 02:25 PM   #54
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Despite the fact that it seems some dinosaurs sported feathers, I have never liked how that looked. So I'm happy there aren't any.
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Even though there have been discoveries in the last 20 years that lead paleontologists to now believe that some dinosaurs had feathers, it wouldn't make sense for the dinosaurs in the JP universe to have "evolved" feathers in the meantime.

They can explain the lack of feathers because of the work they did to "fill-in" the DNA gaps using frog DNA.
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Old 11-29-2014, 03:03 PM   #56
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I think it's even scarier



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Old 11-30-2014, 12:22 PM   #57
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Just watched the trailer and I do believe this will be a fun movie. One thing did bug me, the mosasaur or liopleurodon seemed much too large. Mosasaur's did get the biggest at an estimated 60 feet, but that just seemed way to big, still exited to see it though as giant marine reptiles are my favorites. They seem so much more terrifying due to our poor adaptation to water.

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Old 11-30-2014, 02:20 PM   #58
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Because Ingen/new company makes them bigger/without feathers.
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Old 11-30-2014, 02:29 PM   #59
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I dont think its going to be a raptor squad.

My theory: Power goes out and the cage doors open. The hybrid is chasing Chris Pratt who is fleeing on a motorcycle. The Hybrid bites down into one of the unsuspecting raptors causing the other raptors to flee and try to outrun Chris Pratt while being chased down by the hybrid.

I just think this is much more likely and believable.
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I dont think its going to be a raptor squad.

My theory: Power goes out and the cage doors open. The hybrid is chasing Chris Pratt who is fleeing on a motorcycle. The Hybrid bites down into one of the unsuspecting raptors causing the other raptors to flee and try to outrun Chris Pratt while being chased down by the hybrid.

I just think this is much more likely and believable.
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