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For Albertans it would make zero difference.
In fact, for everyone but Quebec and Manitoba it would make almost zero difference (Ontario and NS seem to either get that day off or another close to it).
It won't matter for the majority, but there are still a lot of people in Alberta for whom making it a national stat holiday would help.
IIRC, many federal civil servants do not get Remembrance Day off - though my memory could be outdated there. The last two jobs my mom has worked has given the option of Remembrance Day or Heritage Day, but never both (her co-workers have generally always voted Heritage Day.)
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I'm shocked that not everyone in desk jobs gets Remembrance Day off. I've always had it off at every company I ever worked for. Same with Boxing Day.
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I'm shocked that not everyone in desk jobs gets Remembrance Day off. I've always had it off at every company I ever worked for. Same with Boxing Day.
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Why? I remember those days. It sucked. Nothing like being dictated what we can and can't do on a holiday.
As for Remembrance Day, like bc-chris said, it's already a stat here and I think it's great that the day is used to honor the sacrifices of so many and having it a stat helps to put a spotlight on it.
We should then call it another "shopping day" holiday for people.
Then there's the retail people who won't get that day off because the majority would rather be shopping for goods and services as opposed to using that time remember.
So some of you think that closing the mall would be a bigger sign of respect than something like this?
Come on.
The world goes on but for two minutes, everyone, whether they are driving, eating, shopping or anything, stops and takes a solitary moment of silence. For that moment everyone thinks about why they are taking that moment to reflect.
Nah force people to stay home all day and do nothing. That will win them over.
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It worries me that understanding of what Remembrance Day really means is slipping away. Education about the significance of the world wars has sharply decreased if what I see with my kids is any indication. Heck, I was born in the '70s and most of what I know about the wars I learned on my own because I sought the history out.
I think that men in their late teens and early twenties especially should learn about the horrors of the world wars and what soldiers of their age would have seen and done to ensure the freedoms we all take for granted. I think the further we get from these histories, the more likely we are to be lulled into a state where it can happen again.
Really? If I recall my high school years correctly, Social 10, 20 and 30 were very heavy in WW content. I'm class of '96, (Calgary), so I don't know how much it varies from year to year and regionally, but I still remember those courses being nearly 50% about World Wars. Am I crazy?
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So some of you think that closing the mall would be a bigger sign of respect than something like this?
Come on.
The world goes on but for two minutes, everyone, whether they are driving, eating, shopping or anything, stops and takes a solitary moment of silence. For that moment everyone thinks about why they are taking that moment to reflect.
Nah force people to stay home all day and do nothing. That will win them over.
You know, you might have some good points to make, but in far to many discussions you go to the extreme.
I am not advocating that you "force people to stay home all day and do nothing". Perhaps you could point out where I advocated for that approach.
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It won't matter for the majority, but there are still a lot of people in Alberta for whom making it a national stat holiday would help.
IIRC, many federal civil servants do not get Remembrance Day off - though my memory could be outdated there. The last two jobs my mom has worked has given the option of Remembrance Day or Heritage Day, but never both (her co-workers have generally always voted Heritage Day.)
In Ottawa I believe federal civil servants are the ONLY people that get Remembrance Day off. I have had to work it while many of the government offices downtown have been empty. That would lead me to believe that federal civil servants should get it off everywhere.
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We do? That is news to me. I have never had Remembrance Day off in Ontario, or a day close to it. Back when I worked in BC, we used to get the morning off, but not the full day.
Unless you mean Thanksgiving, but that is a national holiday.
Aberta actually has 12 stats and Ontario has 11. Three of Alberta's are for government and banks only, whereas 1 of Ontario's is for banks and government only.
In recent years my company has been in the habit of closing on the closet Monday or Friday to Canada & Remembrance Days. then staying open for the Holiday.
Gas stations, hotels, campgrounds (manned campgrounds obviously), everything.
None of this is essential. All of these people deserve to enjoy stat holidays like the rest of us.
I work Oil and Gas and know guys who live in Calgary but work in Ft. St. John what should they do when kicked out of their hotel for the day? Sleep in their trucks? Eating grocery store food they bought the day before? Hope it isn't too cold since they can't fill up their trucks with gas if they run out.
This is one tiny group of likely many that would be negatively affected by this stupid idea. It would at best cause 1 or 2% of them to think about Remembrance Day and the rest likely to be incredibly, and justifiably, pissed off.
I never fought for my country, never served in any sort of military branch but I have a hard time believing that those that did want to force people into majorly altering their lives to artificially remember them.
For the most part people do a great job of respecting veterans and Remembrance Day. Sorry not everyone does exactly how you want them but forcing them to do things they don't want likely doesn't make them have any more respect for those things and are more likely to make them bitter about it.
With the exception of Xmas, I enjoy that most stats fall on a Monday or a Friday.
This would be impossible with Remembrance Day.
Canada seems to be okay when New Year's Day, Canada Day, Christmas Day, and Boxing Day (officially ON only, but most offices observe it) don't fall on a Monday or Friday, so I'm not sure it would be impossible. In fact, with great resolve I'm sure we could round up the courage and ability to not go to work on whatever day it happens, even a Tuesday like in 2014. If it fell on a weekend then you take the Monday off. Every other day, you observe it on that day.
While articling at KPMG in Calgary we received a voicemail from the OMP stating you were free to not work on November 11th, but they preferred you to take that day off as Boxing Day. They made it your choice, but they did try and influence your choice. I will point out there was no backlash to people who took November 11th. We also were persuaded to not take Family Day off during that time, and instead take it off in the summer, as that was busy season. That one they made you give a good reason why you needed that day off. Apparently spending time with your family, who all have the day off, wasn't usually a valid excuse.
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I work Oil and Gas and know guys who live in Calgary but work in Ft. St. John what should they do when kicked out of their hotel for the day? Sleep in their trucks? Eating grocery store food they bought the day before? Hope it isn't too cold since they can't fill up their trucks with gas if they run out.
This is one tiny group of likely many that would be negatively affected by this stupid idea. It would at best cause 1 or 2% of them to think about Remembrance Day and the rest likely to be incredibly, and justifiably, pissed off.
I never fought for my country, never served in any sort of military branch but I have a hard time believing that those that did want to force people into majorly altering their lives to artificially remember them.
For the most part people do a great job of respecting veterans and Remembrance Day. Sorry not everyone does exactly how you want them but forcing them to do things they don't want likely doesn't make them have any more respect for those things and are more likely to make them bitter about it.
Yeah, that term bothers me.
Maybe I am missunderstanding it. Perhaps you could explain it further to me.
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Maybe I am missunderstanding it. Perhaps you could explain it further to me.
It means kicking me out of a hotel or preventing me from shopping that day doesn't actually make me remember veterans. It doesn't make me appreciate what they did anymore, doesn't make me think about what they did or the sacrifices that they made.
I think that more should be done to raise awareness, especially amongst kids, that would get people to actively get involved in Rememberance Day events or to learn more about what Remembrance Day is all about.
Trying to alter people's lives by restricting what they can do, in my opinion, isn't going to raise anymore awareness, create any more respect or enhance the importance of Remembrance Day in people's lives.
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When I lived in Manitoba in the 80s and 90s there were limits on what could and couldn't be open. Some made sense, others didn't. For example at the gas station we were allowed to sell gas and windshield washer fluid, but not motor oil. Grocery and convenience stores could only sell "essentials." Hotels and restaurants were allowed to be open; but couldn't sell booze. Only the Legion could.
One that always ended up being an issue was cigarettes couldn't be sold. Anywhere I worked we always put up signs warning people, but there was always somebody who didn't know.
I think it really made you reflect on how good we have it 364 days of the year.
