Mike Tyson is PO'd at Toronto reporter (live TV)

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

He's never showed remorse because he has always stated he did not rape her.

The alleged victim in that case had already made a false accusation of rape once before, who says she didn't do it again?


And Mike Tyson IS awesome.

And the medical examiner said her injuries were consistent with that of someone who had been raped.

Are we seriously using "The rapist says he never raped her," argument? Because rapists are so well known for coming clean on raping people. By this argument, I can go back to my Graham James example. He's always maintained his innocence. I can virtually guarantee there wouldn't be a bunch of "he's awesome" post if this were an interview with him.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Haha how you call dude a convicted rapist on live tv what kind of reaction was he expecting from crazy Tyson.

The guy is a journalist(?) and it was a relevant question. I really don't see what was wrong with it. Risky, I'll grant you, considering Tyson's history.

[burnin_vernon]

I was often known to say David Milgaard was awesome in the 80s.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The guy is a journalist(?) and it was a relevant question. I really don't see what was wrong with it. Risky, I'll grant you, considering Tyson's history.

That's the whole point its risky. If I was a journalist would I ask that? NO I don't want to end up getting punched in the face by him by a man who is known to be a lose cannon.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by burnin_vernon

I was often known to say David Milgaard was awesome in the 80s.

I'm very happy for you.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

That's the whole point its risky. If I was a journalist would I ask that? NO I don't want to end up getting punched in the face by him by a man who is known to be a lose cannon.

I think some journalists are just bat#### in general. You'd have to be for taking some of the assignments they do. Dude was probably nervous as hell just being in the same room as Tyson.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think some journalists are just bat#### in general. You'd have to be for taking some of the assignments they do. Dude was probably nervous as hell just being in the same room as Tyson.

Oh for sure. He had that oh sh** reaction at the end.

[burnin_vernon]

Originally Posted by rubecube

And the medical examiner said her injuries were consistent with that of someone who had been raped.

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That same examiner said those injuries were found in 10 - 20% of rape victims. There was no evidence of bruising, squeezing or abrasions on her arms or legs.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by burnin_vernon

That same examiner said those injuries were found in 10 - 20% of rape victims. There was no evidence of bruising, squeezing or abrasions on her arms or legs.

Hey man, if you don't want to believe it, that's your choice. I'm always just amazed that the burden of proof required to see someone as guilty in the eyes of the public seems to increase dramatically when it involves a celebrity or athlete.

Anyways, people think I'm on this because it's a rape. It's not. If the guy was convicted for a hit and run while drunk-driving, I'd be having maintaining the same attitude. I think he was a great fighter. I also think he's a of #### who really isn't worthy of the admiration he receives from a lot of people that seems to extend to who he is as a person.

I do agree with undercoverbrother that he's an intriguing person in some respects because he's completely nuts.

[The Ditch]

maybe in a phone interview you could ask that question to a mentally unstable former heavyweight champion convicted rapist, but face to face is really stupid I'd say.

[Hanna Sniper]

Good for Tyson for sticking up for himself like that, that was a POS question

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

Good for Tyson for sticking up for himself like that, that was a POS question

You think? I dunno, essentially asking "Do you think an embattled mayoral candidate who's been videotaped smoking crack should be publicly associating with a convicted rapist" seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

You think? I dunno, essentially asking "Do you think an embattled mayoral candidate who's been videotaped smoking crack should be publicly associating with a convicted rapist" seems pretty reasonable to me.

It was a dumb question to ask Tyson since Tyson has denied those allegations vehemently since the incident.

And yes accused rapists do deny things but lets not forget this woman had made allegations of rape before that were false.

[FlameOn]

Disappointed, I read that as Mike Tyson KO'd Toronto reporter. Should get my eyesight checked.

[browna]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

You think? I dunno, essentially asking "Do you think an embattled mayoral candidate who's been videotaped smoking crack should be publicly associating with a convicted rapist" seems pretty reasonable to me.

That's a clear trolling question to Tyson and deserved a disgusted response...and Tyson's responses are a bit more colorful than most.

This wasn't some hard hitting interview, it was a fluff promo piece to pump Tyson's show, and this guy pretends he's Peter Mansbridge (more like Geraldo) and tries to play controversial journalist.

What does Tyson care, Ford wanted to meet him. At the very basic level, what does Tyson have to lose? Credibility? What does Tyson have to explain himself for?

At very best, it's a question better asked toward Ford or someone in Ford's camp (who has something to lose), not Tyson.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by rubecube

And the medical examiner said her injuries were consistent with that of someone who had been raped.

Are we seriously using "The rapist says he never raped her," argument? Because rapists are so well known for coming clean on raping people. By this argument, I can go back to my Graham James example. He's always maintained his innocence. I can virtually guarantee there wouldn't be a bunch of "he's awesome" post if this were an interview with him.

I was merely responding to your "he hasn't shown remorse yet" comment. Tyson hasn't shown remorse because he has always said he was innocent so not surprising he would not show remorse.

Tyson is no angel by any stretch of the imagination, but the case was weak from day one and the jury obviously didn't like him. The medical examiner's findings were pretty weak as well.

Oh and I might add that even some of the jurors after the fact believed he was innocent, but believed his defence was weak and didn't do enough to show his innocence.

Mike Tyson has always admitted his mistakes even after jail time, but he has been adamant about not being a rapist. He even offered to re-try the case just to clear his name and if he lost he would do the time all over again. I believe he is innocent. He is still an insane dbag most of the time, but I believe that woman was a liar.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Apparently, Mike Tyson's lawyer was a tax lawyer provided by Don King. Who wants a tax lawyer defending you for criminal charges!

[Travis Munroe]

Whether you like Tyson or not, the reporter deserved the response he got. As if he didnt know the reply would go something like that.
I too feel for him as I truly believe he has tried to/and has changed (to the best of his abilities) and then you run into some idiot trying to take advantage of your unstable mind.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

It was a dumb question to ask Tyson since Tyson has denied those allegations vehemently since the incident.

That's an interesting way to look at it, considering the context in which the question was asked.

Rob Ford vehemently denied smoking crack for a year. By your rationale, everyone should have just dropped it, because he said it didn't happen.

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

And yes accused rapists do deny things but lets not forget this woman had made allegations of rape before that were false.

And let's also not forget that Tyson made his living trying to kill people. He says that himself.

He also admits that he was/is crazy, that he beat up his wife, that he didn't respect women, that he was a serial womanizer, that he is/was/always has been filled with rage, and that he felt he was entitled to do (and generally did) whatever he wanted.

But no, she's the one we shouldn't believe.

On the other hand, fabulously famous and wealthy people usually do get screwed by the justice system, so maybe that is what happened.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The guy is a journalist(?) and it was a relevant question. I really don't see what was wrong with it. Risky, I'll grant you, considering Tyson's history.

Honestly, I don't see how it was a relevant question. He did the cheap reporter move of using the "some are saying.." technique. He never attributed a quote to anyone, just did the cheap "some are saying" move. It was out of nowhere, no context, the conversation wasn't leading there.

Tyson, for all his faults, had every right to be upset and react the way he did. And for Mike Tyson, that was a fairly calm reaction.