09-03-2014, 08:05 PM
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#41
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
Wait....why wouldn't unblock-us work?
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The gamecenter live link on NHL.com directed me to Rogers website with Unblock-us set to US.
however gamecenterlive.nhl.com still took me to the old gamecenterlive
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09-03-2014, 08:08 PM
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#42
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Montreal
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
They've already stated: all the same out of market games, + local SportsNet if you subscribe to SportsNet. So the same price, but more games. Why are people complaining? I'm confused
And there was always a monopoly. NHL owned 100% of the online distribution excluding national games.
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The bottom line for me is that Rogers is charging me an extra $50 for the exact same (or worse) service as last year. As an out-of-market Flames fan, Gamecentre was perfect. I got to see every Flames game on my computer except for TSN games and HNIC, which CBC streamed online for free.
This season is more expensive and the only reason seems to be because Rogers wants me to buy their Internet/TV packages. The incentive is they have all the NHL hockey. But I can't get Rogers or their Fiber Optic TV/Internet bundled packages here (which is what they are trying to sell to most of the other parts of Canada). So I'm stuck with this more expensive/crappier Gamecentre product, even though I'm offered a much worse alternative than last year.
Why can't I just buy what I want to buy at the exact same service for the exact same price as for last year?
We can't be happy as consumers that Rogers gets to ream whatever they want down the throats of the Canadian market just because they dropped a huge ton of cash in front of the NHL head office. We are getting suckered here.
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09-03-2014, 08:11 PM
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#43
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Back in YYC....7 Years Later
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If i got my friend in Colorado to buy Gamecenterlive for me in the states, could I use that account in Canada?
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09-03-2014, 08:25 PM
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#44
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stampede Corral
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
I misread your original post as expecting a discount. Sorry
However, the price is stated as $199 like previous years, it's cut with little info on what changes are coming at the same time and with the same amount of info as every other year. Not sure what is different?
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No worries and points well taken. I'm just reacting as a loyal GCL subscriber who has had his GCL access chopped with no warning, and who has no plans to hook up with Rogers cable/internet (not available where I live, Vancouver) or data (I'm happy with my current carrier).
Not sure how Rogers will get me local games on GCL--are they going to contact Shaw to determine that I receive Sportsnet Pacific as part of my Shaw cable subscription? Maybe, but that seems like a stretch. In any case, offering me local Canucks (ugh) games on my tablet isn't much of a benefit, as I could watch those games on TV.
I've been purchasing GCL because I like to watch the Flames here on the coast.
Now it appears I'll be charged 33% more (or is it 25%, my math sucks) for GCL under the new Rogers regime, which is kind of a kick in the sack. As the saying goes, if I'm going to get ****ed, I'd like a kiss at least!
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09-03-2014, 08:28 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I need to figure out a system for Sportsnet West (Flames) games when I'm in BC (cabin) this winter.
Any ideas?
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No internet access? Otherwise this GCL would get you the games there.
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09-03-2014, 08:28 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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And I thought the price was the same. I am to recall paying $200 at some point, no?
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09-03-2014, 08:32 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by greentree
No worries and points well taken. I'm just reacting as a loyal GCL subscriber who has had his GCL access chopped with no warning, and who has no plans to hook up with Rogers cable/internet (not available where I live, Vancouver) or data (I'm happy with my current carrier).
Not sure how Rogers will get me local games on GCL--are they going to contact Shaw to determine that I receive Sportsnet Pacific as part of my Shaw cable subscription? Maybe, but that seems like a stretch. In any case, offering me local Canucks (ugh) games on my tablet isn't much of a benefit, as I could watch those games on TV.
I've been purchasing GCL because I like to watch the Flames here on the coast.
Now it appears I'll be charged 33% more (or is it 25%, my math sucks) for GCL under the new Rogers regime, which is kind of a kick in the sack. As the saying goes, if I'm going to get ****ed, I'd like a kiss at least!
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Assuming Shaw will join up with Rogers, i'm sure they will figure out a way to determine if you have Sportsnet locally.
The TSN web player (Bell) will let you view it via a Rogers account (although not Shaw)
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09-03-2014, 08:43 PM
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#48
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stampede Corral
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
And I thought the price was the same. I am to recall paying $200 at some point, no?
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I've never paid more than $150. And as little as $50 (in the abbreviated 2012/13 season).
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09-03-2014, 08:53 PM
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#49
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Back in YYC....7 Years Later
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I believe the very first year in 2008 it was $190 + tax....or something like that.
and you could ONLY watch it on computer back then. So it has been worse
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09-03-2014, 09:06 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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They sure make it hard for someone who is willing to pay for a product that is simple enough to deliver.
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09-03-2014, 10:22 PM
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#51
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stampede Corral
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To be fair, I just tried NHL.com's old GCL app and it still delivers content. Browser access now under Rogers auspices does not.
I'll stop whining now.
Last edited by greentree; 09-03-2014 at 10:24 PM.
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09-04-2014, 05:34 AM
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#52
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: England
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I cannot wait to see what they do to the international customers
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09-04-2014, 05:51 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I need to figure out a system for Sportsnet West (Flames) games when I'm in BC (cabin) this winter.
Any ideas?
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If you're still with Bell, set up a dish at your cabin and take a Bell receiver from Calgary to your cabin. It will act the same as if it was in Calgary and will be on Calgary time. This is not illegal although it is against Bell's rules if you have active receivers in two different locations, but if not mentioned they tend to look the other way. If you only have the one receiver active, no problem just set it up at your cabin without changing your Bell address.
Last edited by Vulcan; 09-04-2014 at 05:54 AM.
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09-04-2014, 07:28 AM
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#54
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Did the PS4 app change?
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09-04-2014, 08:10 PM
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#55
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimbl420
The gamecenter live link on NHL.com directed me to Rogers website with Unblock-us set to US.
however gamecenterlive.nhl.com still took me to the old gamecenterlive
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Unblock-us is aware of the issue and are working on it... http://support.unblock-us.com/custom...enter?b_id=530
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09-04-2014, 08:49 PM
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#56
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:  
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I really hope unblock-us figures it out, but I have my doubts. They don't have spotify working, and I think this may go the same way.
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Originally Posted by rp889
I've been to Detroit. It's like God sh*t on a parking lot.
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09-04-2014, 09:27 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by robaur
Totally different.
1) If I am using VPN to circumvent the GCL blackout, atleast I am still a proper and legitimate subscriber of GCL and my money is going to the rights holders. This might be borderline morally or ethically wrong.
2) If I pay the company you mentioned for streaming, I am directly stealing content and intentionally depriving the rights holder of their money. This is just downright illegal.
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I don't know that it is that cut and dry. Gcl has no more rights to sell flames games to calgarians than a pirated site does. Of course the fact that gcl is now owned my Rogers makes that statement a little more complicated.
I doubt there is any crime involved in viewing using either method. I imagine that Roger's will do everything they can to stop unblockus type workarounds, so not surprised they are figuring out ways to block it out. I've heard mlb.TV did similar things in the us last year.
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09-04-2014, 10:50 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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Originally Posted by shniper
I really hope unblock-us figures it out, but I have my doubts. They don't have spotify working, and I think this may go the same way.
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Spotify is in canada now...
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09-05-2014, 04:25 PM
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#59
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HotHotHeat
Spotify is in canada now...
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Not really. Only if you have an early preview code.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rp889
I've been to Detroit. It's like God sh*t on a parking lot.
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09-06-2014, 04:42 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Barnet - North London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UKflames
I cannot wait to see what they do to the international customers 
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I don't think we are affected at all. Although that could be more me hoping we won't be.
Also, I think it is still going to be $100 usd
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