08-29-2014, 11:02 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Justin has Norris trophy potential and I don't see many people disagreeing with me on that." C.MacTavish on J.Schultz.
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I just choked on my spit.
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08-29-2014, 11:10 AM
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Deal makes sense for both sides.
Here's hoping Justin gets a lot of useless second assists and can take them to the bank next year.
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08-29-2014, 11:15 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Justin has Norris trophy potential and I don't see many people disagreeing with me on that." C.MacTavish on J.Schultz.
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Well to win the Norris you have to put up a lot of points, so technically he's right. Schultz could put up Mike Green-like numbers, and only the Oilers will let him play that way.
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08-29-2014, 11:19 AM
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Justin has Norris trophy potential and I don't see many people disagreeing with me on that." C.MacTavish on J.Schultz.
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Guess that puts me in the running for the Norris as well.
Awesome, I'd like to thank Mr Edwards my third grade teacher, Ed the talking donkey, oh and my parents for deciding to procreate and I'd also like to thanks . . . .
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08-29-2014, 11:39 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Justin has Norris trophy potential and I don't see many people disagreeing with me on that." C.MacTavish on J.Schultz.
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Because you sit in a room with Kevin "6 cups" Lowe, Mullet head the homer owner, his fro'd up son, and an internet stat nerd/troll.
Seriously, you can't make stuff up, never change EDM.
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08-29-2014, 11:44 AM
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A pure offensive defenceman can win the Norris, we've seen that.
But Justin Schultz isnt even half the player Erik Karlsson or PK Subban are. Not even close.
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08-29-2014, 11:46 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Justin has Norris trophy potential and I don't see many people disagreeing with me on that." C.MacTavish on J.Schultz.
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What a stupid thing for him to say. The pressure is already being felt up North and now they throw out the Norris word, which puts even more pressure.
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08-29-2014, 11:49 AM
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First Line Centre
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I was hoping for the Oiler standard 6x6.
Maybe Katz needed the money to fund his private elevator.
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08-29-2014, 11:49 AM
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Has lived the dream!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
A pure offensive defenceman can win the Norris, we've seen that.
But Justin Schultz isnt even half the player Erik Karlsson or PK Subban are. Not even close.
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Of course. But he isn't even a top ten point producing defenseman, and never will be. Well MAYBE top ten, never top five. And if you're going to win solely based on points, you better run away with it.
MacTavish's statement is insane no matter how you look at it. Even in a weak year for candidates, Schultz should not get a nomination. Ever.
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08-29-2014, 11:51 AM
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Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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The Blues just released a statement saying how they think Butler has Norris Trophy potential as well!
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08-29-2014, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Daradon
Of course. But he isn't even a top ten point producing defenseman, and never will be. Well MAYBE top ten, never top five. And if you're going to win solely based on points, you better run away with it.
MacTavish's statement is insane no matter how you look at it. Even in a weak year for candidates, Schultz should not get a nomination. Ever.
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To be fair he is 24. Gio just had his first elite season at 30.
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08-29-2014, 12:06 PM
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Justin or Jeff? The Worldwide leader in Sports is confusing me...
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08-29-2014, 12:07 PM
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Has lived the dream!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
To be fair he is 24. Gio just had his first elite season at 30.
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And Gio didn't even get nominated. See what I mean? Even Gio isn't there yet.
A lot of the defensemen that win or nominated have had huge offensive seasons by then. Karlsson, PK, Dion. Schultz has had success, but not years like any of those guys. Basically half the output of those guys big years. So no, he's not going to blow up all of a sudden. To win solely on points, he's going to need 20+ goals and 60+ points. Again, he has half that. And those guys were that age or younger.
I dunno, you can just tell that a Norris is out of his reach. He's not good enough offensively, and he's really not good enough defensively. Even if he improves, which I would argue, isn't a for sure thing, he still has a LONG way to go to even be in the conversation.
So even at age 24, MacTavish is clearly just giving the guy an attaboy. Or he's insane. Or both. But he's dead wrong. He could be a top pairing on a bad team (not that he's even there now) and a mid pairing on a good team. But Norris potential? Not. Even. Close.
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08-29-2014, 12:13 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Justin has Norris trophy potential and I don't see many people disagreeing with me on that." C.MacTavish on J.Schultz.
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Just when you think the greasers are looking respectable you glance down and notice the clown shoes.
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08-29-2014, 12:19 PM
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I won't say that Shultz can't develop and eventually win a Norris trophy or two, but to make that statement at this point is not only premature, but is just asking for ridicule.
The only reason that nobody disagrees with MacTavish is because their jaw drops and they are just trying to figure out if he is making some sort of a joke. You know, that uncomfortable silence when people are trying to detect sarcasm.
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08-29-2014, 12:26 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Justin has Norris trophy potential and I don't see many people disagreeing with me on that." C.MacTavish on J.Schultz.
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Is MacT the same guy who said half the GM's would trade their own roster for the Oilers roster, or was that Mister 6 Rings?
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08-29-2014, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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If Schultz is a Norris trophy candidate, what does that make Gio?
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08-29-2014, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FBI
If Schultz is a Norris trophy candidate, what does that make Gio?
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or the 4 or 5 Gio's that the Oilers have
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08-29-2014, 12:59 PM
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#59
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
If Schultz is a Norris trophy candidate, what does that make Gio?
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Hall of Famer.
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08-29-2014, 01:01 PM
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
A pure offensive defenceman can win the Norris, we've seen that.
But Justin Schultz isnt even half the player Erik Karlsson or PK Subban are. Not even close.
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Justine Schultz isn't even half the player Gio or TJ is. There is no one that would trade either of them straight up for the bag of suck that is Justine Schultz.
No one he talks to is disagreeing with MacT because he only talks to Six Rings and Pretty Hair Eakins. No one outside of Edmonton thinks Schultz has Norris potential, other than (as others have said) by playing as a D man in the NHL he is technically eligible.
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