08-10-2014, 06:49 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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One of my favourite things was at the flood relief concert at McMahon she came out with just a guitarist and violinist and played a really stripped down set. She started with "Could I be your girl" and then after, mentioned to the crowd with tongue in cheek 'Well, that was all our up tempo material, now we encourage you to just......have a rest".
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08-10-2014, 07:10 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Artistic integrity aside do artists get less money if the entire song is not played? Not a huge fan of Amp radio but isn't half a song on the radio better for a young artist than no radio play?
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08-10-2014, 07:13 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Sadly, FUEL was a lot like the original Winnipeg Jets. Far more people claim to have cared about the station after it was gone than did when it was on the air.
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08-10-2014, 09:20 PM
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#46
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I was a big fan of Fuel. I even got to tape a special New Years Eve show where I introduced my top 5 songs with the morning crew.
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08-10-2014, 11:14 PM
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#47
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
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Yes it can.
She asked to be pulled from Amp. Newcap is pulling her from all their stations.
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08-11-2014, 04:55 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
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She asked Amp to take her off their playlist. NewCap Radio responded by taking her off the playlist of every station they own.
NewCap is the second-largest private radio broadcaster in Canada. They have nearly 100 radio stations across the country, with at least one in every province except Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Quebec. They have stations in every city in Canada with a population over 1 million, except for Montréal. They also own a lot of stations in small markets, where they're the only stations in town.
That's basically the point of her argument. NewCap is so big that smaller artists who need radio airplay to get noticed by the public can't afford to speak out against this change because they fear the backlash.
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Originally Posted by Mccree
Artistic integrity aside do artists get less money if the entire song is not played? Not a huge fan of Amp radio but isn't half a song on the radio better for a young artist than no radio play?
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Royalties don't have to be paid if less than 60 seconds of the song is played, otherwise they'd get paid.
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Originally Posted by troutman
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Royalties are paid as a percentage of gross revenue not on a per song basis. Stations that play music for less than 20% of their broadcast time pay a reduced rate (1.5% of gross revenue). All other music stations pay 3.2% of their first $1.25 million in gross revenue for the year, and 4.4% on the rest ( http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2014/2...l/sup1-eng.php).
If this helps increase Amp's revenue without decreasing the revenues of the other stations, it will be an overall bump in royalties received by the artists.
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08-11-2014, 05:50 AM
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I really love Jann and pretty much everything she has ever stood for. I follow her on Facebook and, well, she gets pretty opinionated about stuff. 
She did touch on the "artistic integrity" thing. She said she spoke out against AMP totally realizing that they would never have cut one of her songs since they never played her music to begin with. I think her statement was "they aren't playing Leonard Cohen over there". But she said that if she didn't stand up now, where it starts, it might get a foothold and be picked up as a format for other stations. Easier to come out against it right from the start even when it isn't going to affect you. For two reasons. She has the resources to fight this where others do not. And someday this COULD affect her.
Sept. 25th I am seeing Jann play at the National Arts Centre. It will be my first time seeing her live in 20 years. Last time she was opening for Jian Gomeshi and the rest of Moxy Fruvous. First time I ever went to a concert for the opening act more than the main.
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08-11-2014, 07:11 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by getbak
That's basically the point of her argument. NewCap is so big that smaller artists who need radio airplay to get noticed by the public can't afford to speak out against this change because they fear the backlash.
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Exactly. Newcap is trying to punish Jann Arden for speaking out against them while making it very plain what will happen to any other artists who speak out. It is a slimy way to silence criticism. Fortunately for me, I don't listen to either of their Calgary stations anyway, so no need to boycott them.
Also, for those listing off the idiotic things AMP has done over time, don't forget that they gave away a breast augmentation surgery as a prize once.
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08-11-2014, 08:50 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by BBQorMILDEW
How can anyone even listen to the crap music they play every day?
Their music director is lazy and should've been fired months ago. Amp, virgin and 101.5 are what's wrong with radio.
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It might be because not everyone has the same tastes as you. Actually the fact that there are three radio stations playing this type of music probably means most of the public disagree with your taste in music.
Strange.
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08-11-2014, 12:59 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sundre, AB
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as someone who has arrived in Canada in the last 3 years, I still don't get who or what Jann Arden is?
Sure she's a songwriter but i've only seen her on CBC being a 'talking head' multiple times - listening to her music im kinda guessing she's a major winner from CRTC rules.
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08-11-2014, 01:04 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by jofillips
as someone who has arrived in Canada in the last 3 years, I still don't get who or what Jann Arden is?
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I saw her at blockbuster once. Not sure if that helps.
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08-11-2014, 01:54 PM
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#54
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by jofillips
as someone who has arrived in Canada in the last 3 years, I still don't get who or what Jann Arden is?
Sure she's a songwriter but i've only seen her on CBC being a 'talking head' multiple times - listening to her music im kinda guessing she's a major winner from CRTC rules.
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They really need to scrap those Canadian content rules.
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08-11-2014, 02:46 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The wagon's name is "Gaudreau"
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I listened to AMP on the way home yesterday, just to see if I liked the format or not. I didn't notice the shortened versions of songs I don't care for, but I did notice it on the songs that I liked. After it happening a few times, I decided I didn't like it. I'm not outraged by it, but it bothered me enough whenever I did notice it to decide it sucked. But I guess it did make me take a listen to them for a bit, which is more than usual. Back to good ol' 660 News for me!
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08-11-2014, 02:54 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by jofillips
... listening to her music im kinda guessing she's a major winner from CRTC rules.
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Eh? If your suggestion is that her music is so bad she never would have made it without CANCON, I would suggest that you try not being the sole judge and jury of what constitutes good music. I have 40 of Jann's songs on my phone and enjoy all of them.
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08-11-2014, 02:54 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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Originally Posted by polak
They really need to scrap those Canadian content rules.
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They shouldn't be scrapped, but amended so that radio stations can't get away with playing the same 10 Canadian bands all of the time (if the intent is to promote and develop new Canadian artists).
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08-19-2014, 03:18 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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And the change is over....
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But Steve Jones, vice-president of programming, says the station went back to its original format today.
He says there were threats of lawsuits on behalf of a number of unnamed musical artists and the company decided it wasn’t worth it to continue.
Jones says he is convinced that the format is a good one and could be rejigged and brought back in the future.
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http://globalnews.ca/news/1516116/ca...t-song-format/
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08-19-2014, 03:44 PM
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#59
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Lifetime Suspension
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I hate 90% of the music they play, but shorter/more songs do in fact work in keeping a listener's attention.
However, for any real artist, playing 60% of a song you wrote, when you wrote it with the intention of it being heard in its entirety, must be infuriating (I would be).
But these particular artists make #### music anyways, so I doubt enough care was put into their product to really bother them. Repetitive, looped, digital sludge is all it is.
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08-19-2014, 06:26 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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I've been back just about a year now, I'm honestly trying to remember if I've ever listened to any other station but FAN 960. I don't even know what station AMP or any of these other ones are on. I guess I just assumed most on CP were the same during their commute.
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