07-17-2014, 02:48 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Statsny out Iginla in makes them a worse team
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Their top 4 scoring leaders were MacKinnon, Langeskog, Duchene and O'Reilly. Duchene's the oldest of the bunch and he turned 22 23 in January. Stastny may be better than Iginla at this point in their careers but Colorado should be expecting to get better simply by virtue of their young stars maturing.
Last edited by Oling_Roachinen; 07-17-2014 at 02:59 PM.
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07-17-2014, 02:48 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by Jacks
Stupid article. while Iggy, Lou and Jumbo Joe are almost out of time the other 3 have plenty of time. Weber, Kessel and Ovechkin will play 10+ more years each, how the hell can you say none of them will win a cup?
As for Iggy, even if he picked Chi or L.A. he would still be in tough to win it. IMO any of the top 6 teams in the West or the top 2-3 teams in the East have a decent shot at winning.
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this is why I think he should have stayed in Boston.... weaker conference, better chance, and less beat up going into the finals.
Also cause Boston is a better team and will be a better team for the next 2 years. 3rd year is debatable 1-2 years (prob one year at a cap friendly contract given their cap situation)
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07-17-2014, 02:59 PM
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#43
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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It pains me to say it, as I hate the Avs, but they do have a crazy amount of forward depth and a solid goaltender. Their depth on D is questionable, especially int he West, but there are a lot of great teams in a similar position.
I think Iginla wanted out of Boston after that whole PK Subban debacle. I also think Iginla was tired of bouncing from team to team and wanted to stick somewhere until retirement.
The contract doesn't look so bad if Iginla averages 20-30 goals. He is going to get a lot of PP time with some very talented young forwards. He's also not going to be expected to carry the team, he'll be 4-5th forward on that team.
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07-17-2014, 03:04 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Incorrect. By the Time Iggy's contract is up, he will sign with the flames for $500k/yr and the flames will win the cup
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07-17-2014, 03:04 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Locke
I completely agree, but I think he should have stuck around on short deals on legit contenders rather than rolling the dice with Colorado for cash.
They are far from the worst choice, I agree, but they are equally far from the best choice.
Iggy's career earnings of $84M is hardly something to sneeze at either.
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Yeah if it was me I would have gone the Richards route, Iggy definitely doesn't need the money. BUT I disagree that Colorado is just as far from being the best choice as they are from being the worst choice (Edmonton). Colorado could very well have a surge in the next few years as MacKinnon, Landeskog and Duchene all continue to grow and trend upwards. You never know where they could be in 3 years, and where Chicago and LA are as theyre likely to have some cap problems going forward, which may keep them from being competitive (at least as dominant as they have been).
That said, if you want to win the Cup as a 37 year old, it's probably in your best interest to go for 1 year deals and choose a team each year (could be the same team). Not how I would have gone about it, but certainly not a zero chance of winning that the article seems to suggest.
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07-17-2014, 03:05 PM
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#46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Statsny out Iginla in makes them a worse team...very unlikely they will win the cup.
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You need to account for Duchene, O'reilly, Landeskog, Mackinnon all being a year better/closer to their prime as well.
They won't be worse. Last year was Stastnys best year since his rookie campaign
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07-17-2014, 03:08 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Vegas has the Avs at 18-1
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I'll take those odds.
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07-17-2014, 03:09 PM
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#48
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Okotoks
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Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford
Game 7 didn't go to OT.
Remember the Khabby save on Leopold at the end to seal it for TB in the 3rd
Game 6 was OT for the cup for Calgary.
Freaking Leg whip got St Louis in all alone on Kipper.
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riiight, got my Game 6 and 7 mixed up. Probably cause won Game 6.
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07-17-2014, 03:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Minnesota really exposed Colorado - I thought they out-played them badly, and without some blown calls and bad bounces, would have swept the Avalanche.
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07-17-2014, 03:15 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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If he would have signed with the Rangers last year this guy could have written the same article but they got as close as you can get without winning. The Avs have some solid overall talent that should get better in the coming seasons so I wouldn't close the door on Iggy winning a cup yet although I wouldn't put my own money on it.
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07-17-2014, 03:16 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
this is why I think he should have stayed in Boston.... weaker conference, better chance, and less beat up going into the finals.
Also cause Boston is a better team and will be a better team for the next 2 years. 3rd year is debatable 1-2 years (prob one year at a cap friendly contract given their cap situation)
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Boston didn't want him to stay, and couldn't afford to pay him a decent salary.
Sure, he likely could have stayed there for extremely under value but you can't expect that.
A little home town discount is one thing, but they would have paid him about 1/5th of his market value.
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07-17-2014, 03:16 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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This article sucks because the sedins should be on that list for never going to win a cup.
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07-17-2014, 03:17 PM
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#53
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anyways, I sort of agree that most of the guys on that list likely never win a cup.
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07-17-2014, 03:21 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Boston didn't want him to stay, and couldn't afford to pay him a decent salary.
Sure, he likely could have stayed there for extremely under value but you can't expect that.
A little home town discount is one thing, but they would have paid him about 1/5th of his market value.
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probably not but I was hoping he would anyways... would be nice to see him get that cup and he's made probably $70+ million in his career?
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07-17-2014, 03:25 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Boston didn't want him to stay, and couldn't afford to pay him a decent salary.
Sure, he likely could have stayed there for extremely under value but you can't expect that.
A little home town discount is one thing, but they would have paid him about 1/5th of his market value.
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If the Cup was really the most important thing to him, he should be able to "settle" for 1 million a year.
Not saying it's not important, but it's obviously not the MOST important. Which is fine.
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07-17-2014, 03:28 PM
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Iggy would have to give up 8-10M over the next 3 years to play in L.A. or Chi. If you gave me a choice between 8-10M and a 5% chance of winning or a 50/50 chance (generous) at a cup ring I'd take the money.
I doubt Bos wins again any time soon and less money to spend so that wasn't going to work regardless.
Last edited by Jacks; 07-17-2014 at 03:30 PM.
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07-17-2014, 03:29 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FBI
This article sucks because the sedins should be on that list for never going to win a cup.
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They signed new contracts last year but if the Canucks don't make the playoffs in the coming season I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them were to push for a trade in the off-season.
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07-17-2014, 03:32 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
They signed new contracts last year but if the Canucks don't make the playoffs in the coming season I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them were to push for a trade in the off-season.
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But unless they get their production up, who takes them? Can't see those contracts moving at current value
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07-17-2014, 03:35 PM
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#59
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Trading the Sedin's would take some finesse. Not many teams would want 2 aging stars who carry a combined 14M cap hit. Maybe NYR or TOR?
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07-17-2014, 03:40 PM
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#60
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Lifetime Suspension
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Article makes a good point. I was shocked when Iginla chased the money instead of going for less money and term to a true contender.
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