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Old 07-08-2014, 12:02 AM   #41
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I don't understand why the Oilers didn't trade him at the draft. I guess they are confident in re-signing him? Big risk here.
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Old 07-08-2014, 12:23 AM   #42
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I don't understand why the Oilers didn't trade him at the draft. I guess they are confident in re-signing him? Big risk here.
Seems far more likely there are prepared to let him go, imo.
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Old 07-08-2014, 12:52 AM   #43
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Which has nothing to do with the difference between negotiating an rfa contract and a ufa contract.
How does him being an RFA have any real significance? You think they overpaid because he is an RFA? He made 1.8 last year. How much did they really overpay? He's not exactly a player you fear losing either. Buying UFA years isn't exactly vital. They probably prefer the flexibility of a one year deal. Maybe why they paid a bit more if they even did.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:20 AM   #44
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I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
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Maybe they offered him 6x6, but he agreed to take less money so he could get out of there sooner?
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I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
Could have been a mutual thing. Both can evaluate their positions after the season ends. Maybe Petry wants to test the market. Maybe Edmonton doesn't want to commit long term with a bunch of higher profile players who will need deals. Signing shorter and longer definitely has pros and cons to each side.

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I'm sure Petry looked at what the Oil paid for a scrub (Nikitin @4.5 plus 5th rounder), as well as all the other free agent D signings, and demanded at least 5+ per for every year of UFA status he gave up.
Petry is the highly sought after right hand D. He will make a boat load as a UFA next year.
The Oil still have to give the mercenary 6 X 6 and I suppose, with what is already locked up, there was none left for their best D man

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Old 07-08-2014, 08:28 PM   #48
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I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
I honestly think he did because he's a UFA next year and can leave. There's really no doubt in my mind he was the driving force. What do the Oilers get out of it?
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:34 PM   #49
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I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
ya I am surprised most people don't like this deal, he is their only legit top 4 d man

it's a good deal for this year but becomes horrible if he walks at the end of the year
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:59 PM   #50
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I honestly think he did because he's a UFA next year and can leave. There's really no doubt in my mind he was the driving force. What do the Oilers get out of it?
They get to save money on a guy that really shouldn't be paid all that much money. If he lights it up this year then you can offload him at the deadline to a contender for a nice return, if he plays like crap you let him walk as a UFA. This has nothing to do with Petry wanting to leave as a UFA next year, if he really wanted out he would of asked to be traded.
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ya I am surprised most people don't like this deal, he is their only legit top 4 d man

it's a good deal for this year but becomes horrible if he walks at the end of the year
He isn't anywhere close to a legit top 4 (outside of a garbage defense like Edmonton).

I am no fan of Ference but I would say he is better than Petry. With his offense Schultz may be better as well considering neither him nor Petry can play defense at all.
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:37 PM   #52
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I think MacT is getting dumber. He keeps attempting to sound smart(er), I think - and it just doesn't work. Painful really.
Interview on the Oil website with the Oilers GM where he discusses the Petry contract, Justin Schuktz negotiations and other oily stuff.
It's no good

http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocen...628006&catid=4
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They get to save money on a guy that really shouldn't be paid all that much money. If he lights it up this year then you can offload him at the deadline to a contender for a nice return, if he plays like crap you let him walk as a UFA. This has nothing to do with Petry wanting to leave as a UFA next year, if he really wanted out he would of asked to be traded.
I'm confused. They're saving money on a player that shouldn't make much, but he's still getting $3M. He's one of their best defensemen, and there's almost no scenario where he returns. How does this help the oilers? Would an extra million make a difference this year?
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what's more confusing to me is if he lights it up and becomes a good defenseman then they should trade him

why would you what to trade a player who beat the odds and somehow developed into a player in that system.
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They get to save money on a guy that really shouldn't be paid all that much money. If he lights it up this year then you can offload him at the deadline to a contender for a nice return, if he plays like crap you let him walk as a UFA. This has nothing to do with Petry wanting to leave as a UFA next year, if he really wanted out he would of asked to be traded.
Wow, this is such classic Oilers backwards mentality.

Let's take one of our better players (arguably our best defenseman at the moment) who is 26 years old and just entering his prime, and - instead of committing to him and trying to help him become a better player and a bigger part of the organization - we'll offer him a one year deal. That way:

1) if he plays well, we can trade him for picks (because why would we want to have a guy who plays well on the roster)

2) if he 'plays like crap' we can let him walk

Nice way to build a team.

I have said this many, many times but the Oilers keep on doing it: they put players in a position to fail, the player subsequently fails, then the media and the fans turn on them, then they are run out of town.

Rinse, repeat.
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I'm sure Petry looked at what the Oil paid for a scrub (Nikitin @4.5 plus 5th rounder), as well as all the other free agent D signings, and demanded at least 5+ per for every year of UFA status he gave up.
Petry is the highly sought after right hand D. He will make a boat load as a UFA next year.
The Oil still have to give the mercenary 6 X 6 and I suppose, with what is already locked up, there was none left for their best D man
Its early and I dont know if I'm hungover from Germany's 7-1 win yesterday or perhaps still drunk, but....huh?

In what Universe is Jeff Petry worth $5M and why would he make a boatload as a UFA?

We're talking about Jeff Petry? The Oilers' Jeff Petry?
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Petry is an ok Dman, who has the potential to be a top4 guy. With no one on the oilers roster that can actually guide petry on how to grow into that role, he isn't in the best position to succeed. The pricepoint they got him signed at this year is great value.

at the end of the season or at the deadline, the oilers will likely face the predicament where again, he's a guy who has absolute value as a top4 guy but has yet to show it on the ice consistently. When it comes to sign him, he'll have to decide on taking a similar cap number for another year or 2. Or he'll realize that he'll never hit his potential (like all the young oiler "giordanos" they have in the pipeline) given the coaching and lack of strong veteran dmen that can show them the ropes of being a top defender, and he'll walk.

I realize they have a guy like ference. However, i don't see how a bottom pairing dman over the last several years (heck he was a bottom pairing guy here when the flames traded him to boston) can help a young dman become a top pairing guy.
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Its early and I dont know if I'm hungover from Germany's 7-1 win yesterday or perhaps still drunk, but....huh?

In what Universe is Jeff Petry worth $5M and why would he make a boatload as a UFA?

We're talking about Jeff Petry? The Oilers' Jeff Petry?
They paid Nikitin $4.5...
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They paid Nikitin $4.5...
Yes. Which is insane. The only people in the world stupid enough to pay Nikitin $4.5M are the Edmonton Oilers.

So, if the batshat crazy Edmonton Oilers are unwilling to pay Jeff Petry similar or more then why would anyone else?
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Right hand D got a boat load of cash this year...
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