07-08-2014, 12:02 AM
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I don't understand why the Oilers didn't trade him at the draft. I guess they are confident in re-signing him? Big risk here.
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07-08-2014, 12:23 AM
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#42
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Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FAN
I don't understand why the Oilers didn't trade him at the draft. I guess they are confident in re-signing him? Big risk here.
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Seems far more likely there are prepared to let him go, imo.
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07-08-2014, 12:52 AM
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#43
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by wingmaker
Which has nothing to do with the difference between negotiating an rfa contract and a ufa contract.
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How does him being an RFA have any real significance? You think they overpaid because he is an RFA? He made 1.8 last year. How much did they really overpay? He's not exactly a player you fear losing either. Buying UFA years isn't exactly vital. They probably prefer the flexibility of a one year deal. Maybe why they paid a bit more if they even did.
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07-08-2014, 01:20 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
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07-08-2014, 07:15 AM
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#45
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In the Sin Bin
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Maybe they offered him 6x6, but he agreed to take less money so he could get out of there sooner?
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07-08-2014, 06:44 PM
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#46
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinordi
I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
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Could have been a mutual thing. Both can evaluate their positions after the season ends. Maybe Petry wants to test the market. Maybe Edmonton doesn't want to commit long term with a bunch of higher profile players who will need deals. Signing shorter and longer definitely has pros and cons to each side.
Last edited by Hackey; 07-08-2014 at 06:47 PM.
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07-08-2014, 07:45 PM
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I'm sure Petry looked at what the Oil paid for a scrub (Nikitin @4.5 plus 5th rounder), as well as all the other free agent D signings, and demanded at least 5+ per for every year of UFA status he gave up.
Petry is the highly sought after right hand D. He will make a boat load as a UFA next year.
The Oil still have to give the mercenary 6 X 6 and I suppose, with what is already locked up, there was none left for their best D man
Last edited by EldrickOnIce; 07-08-2014 at 07:47 PM.
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07-08-2014, 08:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinordi
I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
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I honestly think he did because he's a UFA next year and can leave. There's really no doubt in my mind he was the driving force. What do the Oilers get out of it?
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07-08-2014, 09:34 PM
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#49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinordi
I think Petry is clearly their best D-man so it's a relative bargain. The one year deal thing hurts for the Oil, I wonder who was pushing for it Petry or the Oilers?
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ya I am surprised most people don't like this deal, he is their only legit top 4 d man
it's a good deal for this year but becomes horrible if he walks at the end of the year
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07-08-2014, 09:59 PM
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#50
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
I honestly think he did because he's a UFA next year and can leave. There's really no doubt in my mind he was the driving force. What do the Oilers get out of it?
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They get to save money on a guy that really shouldn't be paid all that much money. If he lights it up this year then you can offload him at the deadline to a contender for a nice return, if he plays like crap you let him walk as a UFA. This has nothing to do with Petry wanting to leave as a UFA next year, if he really wanted out he would of asked to be traded.
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07-08-2014, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
ya I am surprised most people don't like this deal, he is their only legit top 4 d man
it's a good deal for this year but becomes horrible if he walks at the end of the year
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He isn't anywhere close to a legit top 4 (outside of a garbage defense like Edmonton).
I am no fan of Ference but I would say he is better than Petry. With his offense Schultz may be better as well considering neither him nor Petry can play defense at all.
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07-08-2014, 11:37 PM
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#52
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I think MacT is getting dumber. He keeps attempting to sound smart(er), I think - and it just doesn't work. Painful really.
Interview on the Oil website with the Oilers GM where he discusses the Petry contract, Justin Schuktz negotiations and other oily stuff.
It's no good
http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocen...628006&catid=4
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07-08-2014, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TKB
They get to save money on a guy that really shouldn't be paid all that much money. If he lights it up this year then you can offload him at the deadline to a contender for a nice return, if he plays like crap you let him walk as a UFA. This has nothing to do with Petry wanting to leave as a UFA next year, if he really wanted out he would of asked to be traded.
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I'm confused. They're saving money on a player that shouldn't make much, but he's still getting $3M. He's one of their best defensemen, and there's almost no scenario where he returns. How does this help the oilers? Would an extra million make a difference this year?
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07-09-2014, 06:13 AM
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#54
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what's more confusing to me is if he lights it up and becomes a good defenseman then they should trade him
why would you what to trade a player who beat the odds and somehow developed into a player in that system.
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07-09-2014, 08:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TKB
They get to save money on a guy that really shouldn't be paid all that much money. If he lights it up this year then you can offload him at the deadline to a contender for a nice return, if he plays like crap you let him walk as a UFA. This has nothing to do with Petry wanting to leave as a UFA next year, if he really wanted out he would of asked to be traded.
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Wow, this is such classic Oilers backwards mentality.
Let's take one of our better players (arguably our best defenseman at the moment) who is 26 years old and just entering his prime, and - instead of committing to him and trying to help him become a better player and a bigger part of the organization - we'll offer him a one year deal. That way:
1) if he plays well, we can trade him for picks (because why would we want to have a guy who plays well on the roster)
2) if he 'plays like crap' we can let him walk
Nice way to build a team.
I have said this many, many times but the Oilers keep on doing it: they put players in a position to fail, the player subsequently fails, then the media and the fans turn on them, then they are run out of town.
Rinse, repeat.
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07-09-2014, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
I'm sure Petry looked at what the Oil paid for a scrub (Nikitin @4.5 plus 5th rounder), as well as all the other free agent D signings, and demanded at least 5+ per for every year of UFA status he gave up.
Petry is the highly sought after right hand D. He will make a boat load as a UFA next year.
The Oil still have to give the mercenary 6 X 6 and I suppose, with what is already locked up, there was none left for their best D man
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Its early and I dont know if I'm hungover from Germany's 7-1 win yesterday or perhaps still drunk, but....huh?
In what Universe is Jeff Petry worth $5M and why would he make a boatload as a UFA?
We're talking about Jeff Petry? The Oilers' Jeff Petry?
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07-09-2014, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Its early and I dont know if I'm hungover from Germany's 7-1 win yesterday or perhaps still drunk, but....huh?
In what Universe is Jeff Petry worth $5M and why would he make a boatload as a UFA?
We're talking about Jeff Petry? The Oilers' Jeff Petry?
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They paid Nikitin $4.5...
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07-09-2014, 09:04 AM
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#59
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
They paid Nikitin $4.5...
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Yes. Which is insane. The only people in the world stupid enough to pay Nikitin $4.5M are the Edmonton Oilers.
So, if the batshat crazy Edmonton Oilers are unwilling to pay Jeff Petry similar or more then why would anyone else?
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07-09-2014, 09:25 AM
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Right hand D got a boat load of cash this year...
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