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Old 06-30-2014, 11:59 AM   #41
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Wonder if this is the end for SOB in the NHL. Maybe the Oilers could use him.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:01 PM   #42
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:08 PM   #43
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Seems a waste of a compliance buyout. This tells me the Flames will not be involved in any deals where they eat other team's mistakes for extra assets. If ownership can't stomach burying SOB in the minors for another year at $2M then they sure won't assume long term payouts for players from other teams.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:09 PM   #44
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I guess that sort of makes sense. I still don't know why they would use a compliance buyout where we get no cap value out of it, especially for such a small salary. We need as much help as we can get at this point.
Obviously they aren't as worried as you as reaching the floor.
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not much love for Shane O'Beauty around here. Rowdy guy, but he's a pretty brutal NHL/AHL player.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:11 PM   #46
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Wonder if this is the end for SOB in the NHL. Maybe the Oilers could use him.
I think hes been perfecting his Russian.

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Old 06-30-2014, 12:19 PM   #47
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Tanguay and Sarich for David Jones
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:41 PM   #48
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Tanguay and Sarich for David Jones
Tanguay (age 34) 3.5M for 2 years for David Jones (age 29) 4 M for 2 years.

Sarich is a UFA.

On the Flames Tanguay has no spot at all. At least David Jones will be able to play in the bottom 6.
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My hope is for the Flames to pick up a 2nd round pick for Jones at the deadline two years from now (his UFA season). Then that trade might not look so bad.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:33 PM   #51
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:02 PM   #52
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Seems a waste of a compliance buyout. This tells me the Flames will not be involved in any deals where they eat other team's mistakes for extra assets. If ownership can't stomach burying SOB in the minors for another year at $2M then they sure won't assume long term payouts for players from other teams.
Among the other reasons given, you can only dress so many veteran players in the AHL. It may not matter since Adirondack is likely to be a young team as well, but why risk handcuffing yourself on a guy who clearly isn't in your plans?
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Tanguay (age 34) 3.5M for 2 years for David Jones (age 29) 4 M for 2 years.

Sarich is a UFA.

On the Flames Tanguay has no spot at all. At least David Jones will be able to play in the bottom 6.
Oh David Jones is only 29 years old?

Well that just changes my whole perspective of him.

/sarcasm

As for Sarich being UFA, that gives him value. It relieves the team from having him as an anchor. I bet the Flames wish O'Brien could have been a UFA this summer...

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Old 06-30-2014, 05:24 PM   #54
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That's just dumb, should have used a regular buyout. No way in hell we get anywhere near the cap ceiling but there is a fairly reasonable chance we will have some trouble getting to the floor. Unless they have some big UFA on a handshake deal waiting in the wings this could blow up in our faces.
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:28 PM   #55
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If the flames were not swimming in cap space I would not be shocked to see David Jones bought out as well. Just a terrible deal by Feaster. Not going to miss sob at all
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Between this and the RFA qualifications all happening today, it seems like Treliving's sole focus the last few weeks has been the draft and so now he can get "other business" taken care of.
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:40 PM   #57
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That's just dumb, should have used a regular buyout. No way in hell we get anywhere near the cap ceiling but there is a fairly reasonable chance we will have some trouble getting to the floor. Unless they have some big UFA on a handshake deal waiting in the wings this could blow up in our faces.
It will be interesting to be sure.

This is more or less what we're looking at currently:
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CAP PAYROLL: $41,239,000
FLOOR SPACE $9,761,000

$9.8M to spend on 6 players. An average of $1.63M each, and that average increases if we promote Gaudreau ($0.925m), Reinhart ($0.618k), or Wotherspoon ($0.925m).

We're going to have to bring in a $4-6M player basically.
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I still think the Flames will make a trade similar to the Gagner deal to help get to the floor - bring in a high priced player, and immediately flip him while retaining some of his salary.

If done right, I think this strategy could be very "profitable" for the Flames in terms of what they could get in return for a good player, at a fraction of their original cost.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:54 PM   #59
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Expect a big drop of pay O'Brien
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I'm guessing this was a late decision because they didn't get any good offers to pick up an overpaid vet in trade with which to use one of their compliance buyouts.
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