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Old 06-29-2014, 07:08 PM   #41
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I am still surprised that Gustavsson's agent let him sign in Detroit before even listening to other teams offers

1. He barely even got a raise
2. We could have given him more money
3. He re-signed with a team that has is fully committed to another guy long term
There's another guy who was considered garbage when he left the Leafs. reamer has done more with the Leafs than Gustavsson did.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:24 PM   #42
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I am still surprised that Gustavsson's agent let him sign in Detroit before even listening to other teams offers

1. He barely even got a raise
2. We could have given him more money
3. He re-signed with a team that has is fully committed to another guy long term
I'm surprised that Detroit even wanted to keep him and he wanted to stay for just the 1 year. Mrazek is going to be good, maybe even supplant Jimmy Howard good, and he's an RFA at season's end. I doubt Gustavsson is there past next year. The one good thing is Detroit is a high class organization, so it's probably pretty nice to be treated well by management, media, and fans after dealing with the grinder that is Toronto.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:29 PM   #43
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Seems like a pretty natural fit to get him on the Jets. They need an upgrade on Pavelec and while Reimer isn't a top-end goalie, I think that he would give them a better chance at the playoffs.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:30 PM   #44
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The jury's still out on Reimer. Nobody knows if he's good enough to be a starter yet. Toronto is an awful place to develop a goaltender and Reimer did very well as a young goaltender under pretty bad circumstances to handle that pressure. He was really dicked around over here, but the guy was pretty mentally strong. Down low the guy can be a little slow to react, but again, mentally I really think he's solid, and that's a good start for a goaltender. If the goalie coaches think they can develop him more, I don't see why we can't throw a 4th rounder at the Leafs and get him.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:32 PM   #45
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What a crybaby. These clowns have no perspective on real life.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:43 PM   #46
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The jury's still out on Reimer. Nobody knows if he's good enough to be a starter yet. Toronto is an awful place to develop a goaltender and Reimer did very well as a young goaltender under pretty bad circumstances to handle that pressure. He was really dicked around over here, but the guy was pretty mentally strong. Down low the guy can be a little slow to react, but again, mentally I really think he's solid, and that's a good start for a goaltender. If the goalie coaches think they can develop him more, I don't see why we can't throw a 4th rounder at the Leafs and get him.
Problem is that the Flames historically haven't done well trading with the Leafs and I would rather not give up much in quality assets for a goaltender that may or may not be better than Ramo.
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NHL back-up with delusions of grandeur. I hope we stay away.
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:07 PM   #48
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Responding to Fans that don't think a ufa goalie would sign here. Ramo is our starter, I like Ramo a lot but he has not earned the number one position for an extended period of time. Any UFA golie has a great shot at being the starter here, possibly build a future on this team, or increase his value dramatically in the league. Not to mention money should be a non starter with the flames, we have space galore. UFA goalies can go to cup contenders but those teams have solidified the number 1 goalie spot. Most goalies want to be the starter on any team.

Calgary is very attractive in my mind. Huge opportunity for a UFA goalie here. Personal opinion is Ramo is better than we all give him credit for. Even Berra played well for us minus a few gaffs. Most nights goaltending was not the issue in a lot of one goal games.

Feel sorry for Corban Knight, signed with the flames cause we lacked center depth. Now we have depth. Still thin k the guy is Stajans replacement though lol!
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NHL back-up with delusions of grandeur. I hope we stay away.
Delusions of grandeur? By who? If you've ever seen a Reimer interview or heard the guy speak you'd see he's among the most down to earth people out there. He's got his head on his shoulders and has had really spectacular moments until Toronto got Bernier and put him in the doghouse. Again, nobody's saying he's great, but he certainly isn't a definite backup. If he can get the right goal coach he could be a solid starter.
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I would totally trade a 2nd for Reimer right now as long as he is guaranteed to get 50 starts. Small price to pay for a guarantee of McDavid/Eichel.

Joking aside, I don't think he would be a fit here. Why has he requested a trade exactly? Because Bernier took his job?

What if Ramo retains his starting position (which is very likely, actually, but for the sake of argument it is at least a plausible outcome)? Will he remain 'rattled' and sulky, demanding another trade?

Big pass on the guy - even for a 2nd. As part of a bigger trade for something, perhaps (though I can't think of any realistic scenarios since I am not very keen on most of the Leafs' prospects). I just don't think it will make sense when there are other available goalies that are competent backups that you can sign for free. Flames may have to wait a little while until some of them realize there is not much interest (think it is a buyer's market still), but I think it is an area this organization should show patience in during the FA period - especially with Ramo having a very excellent second half to the season.
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We will take him. There is somewhat of a fan revolt brewing, as the Jets did not do anything significant, but by far and away, the decision not to buyout Pavelec's contract, has many Jets faithful questioning the organization. Reimer would be a good fit in Winnipeg.
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Reimer isn't a bad option for the Flames. Young, Burke knows him, decent 1B Goalie.

I don't want an older goalie like Hiller, Ward, or Miller. I am more interested in the future and that isn't them. I prefer Griess, Montoya, or Johnson. But the Flames will have talked to those guys now and will have some indication if they are interested in signing with us. If they aren't Reimer in a 2 or 3 year deal isn't horrible.
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If you're going to give up assets for a guy like Reimer it better be because he's a young goalie who fits in the long term plans, or that the assets you're giving up are minimal.

I'd rather just find someone via the UFA route, or potentially a trade like Cam Ward where the Canes would give up an asset for the Flames to take him off their hands.
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Reimer isn't a bad option for the Flames. Young, Burke knows him, decent 1B Goalie.

I don't want an older goalie like Hiller, Ward, or Miller. I am more interested in the future and that isn't them. I prefer Griess, Montoya, or Johnson. But the Flames will have talked to those guys now and will have some indication if they are interested in signing with us. If they aren't Reimer in a 2 or 3 year deal isn't horrible.

For me I want one of 2 things for the backup goalie. Either he is a goalie that can push Ramo for starting job ie Reimer, emery , or I would like to see a veteran that can teach Ramo or Ortio (following year) some things , ie Ward, hiller

What I don't want is some backup that does neither.
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Some of us avoid threads full of fan proposed hypothetical trades due to the awfulness.
True.

At the same time I am very glad those threads are there, so that I don't have to wade through as many fan proposed hypothetical trades in every thread.
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Some of us avoid threads full of fan proposed hypothetical trades due to the awfulness.
Also, those megathreads get really unwieldy, I like having individual threads for individual transactions, its not like there are tons of them and the minor ones tend to drop off the first page quickly enough.
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