06-24-2014, 08:45 AM
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#41
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Burke Salad
The question is would you go with Ho-sang at 36? Very high risk/high reward there. Or is it pick 34 we have? Either way would you take that risk with The Flames second?
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I'd take Lemeiux at 34 if he is still there (list has him at 33). He's a belligerent SOB.
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06-24-2014, 08:50 AM
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#42
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Uncle Chester
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I've heard some negatives about both Ho Sang and Lemieux in terms of character. I'd prefer Calgary avoids them.
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06-24-2014, 08:53 AM
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#43
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsJunky
I've heard some negatives about both Ho Sang and Lemieux in terms of character. I'd prefer Calgary avoids them.
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Maybe Burke and company got different vibes from one or both during the interview process.
You always need an ####### on the team anyways.
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06-24-2014, 08:53 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
We have 34, and yes I would.
The kid looked fantastic in the prospects game IIRC and did great in the physical testing.
High risk / high reward type of pick?
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I would take him. People have been on his attitude since the day he came into the OHL but I've never seen it. Perhaps he's got a bit of an ego on him, but that's the same reason someone like PK Subban went in the 2nd round. Its not like he's sabotaging his team or taking stupid penalties.
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06-24-2014, 08:59 AM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Pick #34 could be used on other players like : Eric Cornel, Jack Dougherty, Vladimir Kamenev. I'd prefer any of those over Ho-Sang. Lemieux I'd be cool with.
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06-24-2014, 09:33 AM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I have a completely baseless gut feeling that Nylander may be the sleeper pick the Flames are targeting. Gaudreau feeding that Nylander kid for a decade could very well be the most insane thing ever.
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Yeah, this basically sounds completely terrifying for opposition defenders.
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06-24-2014, 09:39 AM
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#47
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First Line Centre
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Id love to see Lemieux, Cornel or Kamenev at 34 but he would have be able to come over to NA ASAP.
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06-24-2014, 09:40 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by RyZ
Id love to see Lemieux, Cornel or Kamenev at 34 but he would have be able to come over to NA ASAP.
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Lemieux sounds like he would fit right in.
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06-24-2014, 09:42 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by RyZ
Id love to see Lemieux, Cornel or Kamenev at 34 but he would have be able to come over to NA ASAP.
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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=721117
Kamenev is working on it. I think the Flames pick @ 34 is right in the middle of the range I think he goes in.
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06-24-2014, 10:07 AM
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Franchise Player
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I'm in Windsor - I'm definitely in the minority around here, but I'm not a fan of Ho-Sang at all.
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06-24-2014, 10:18 AM
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#51
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I have a completely baseless gut feeling that Nylander may be the sleeper pick the Flames are targeting.
Gaudreau feeding that Nylander kid for a decade could very well be the most insane thing ever.
Again, completely baseless but something hasn't been sitting right for a while. He's the exact opposite of Ritchie as a sleeper pick and as Burke said, everyone lies during the draft, reverse phsychology. @4 it could be Nylander and I could live with that. Although I think the uproar would be much stronger through CP.
Still want Draisaitl or Bennett first and foremost personally.
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Gaudreau + Nylander (or Ehlers) = Flames' opponents never touching the puck again except to take it out of the back of the net...
(sight over exaggeration...)
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06-24-2014, 10:21 AM
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#52
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RyZ
Id love to see Lemieux, Cornel or Kamenev at 34 but he would have be able to come over to NA ASAP.
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Eric Cornel came to the Flames, virtually speaking in my monster 3 rnd mock draft (with commentary and stats of all picks)
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Intrigued to see Conner Bleackley at the back end of the 1st rnd or early 2nd in plenty of rankings. I think he goes higher. If not, if the FLames somehow land him at 34th it'll be Grand Theft Bleackley!
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06-24-2014, 10:50 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I have a completely baseless gut feeling that Nylander may be the sleeper pick the Flames are targeting.
Gaudreau feeding that Nylander kid for a decade could very well be the most insane thing ever.
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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
Yeah, this basically sounds completely terrifying for opposition defenders.
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Terrifying in the same way that Eberle and RNH are terrifying, which is to say not at all.
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06-24-2014, 10:52 AM
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#54
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by bigtmac19
I'm in Windsor - I'm definitely in the minority around here, but I'm not a fan of Ho-Sang at all.
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Can you tell us why? Is it on ice or off ice issues that put you off more?
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06-24-2014, 11:03 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Terrifying in the same way that Eberle and RNH are terrifying, which is to say not at all.
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I think you will need to surround Gaudreau with more beef, a certain German may be suffice? Imagine with Gaudreau's wizardry and Draisaitles ability to protect the puck and create room, and in a decent sized winger with some finish and....glory!
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06-24-2014, 11:19 AM
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First Line Centre
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Anyone hear if Monahan gained some weight this summer? Might take a few more years though.
Colbourne, Draistaitle and Gaudreau would be a pretty sweet 2nd or 3rd line. Watched the German/US game and they both struck me as two of the best out there.
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06-24-2014, 11:25 AM
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We're going to have serious problems if Colborne is on the 2nd line.
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06-24-2014, 11:30 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by RyZ
Can you tell us why? Is it on ice or off ice issues that put you off more?
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He has had some attitude problems for sure, benched once or twice - once sent home in the middle of a game.
He has terrific speed, his offensive awareness is okay. Usually pretty bad puck hog, thinks his speed will get him through five guys almost every time he touches the puck. Always wants to try the flashy moves.
All things that can be fixed at higher level I would hope, but for me, I've just never been a big fan, too much of a project, even with the raw talent.
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06-24-2014, 11:33 AM
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#59
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
We're going to have serious problems if Colborne is on the 2nd line.
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That depends. I could see something like
Gaudreau - Draisaitl/Reinhart - Poirier
Baertschi - Monahan - Colborne
being a pretty good top 6 when they all round into form a few years down the road.
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06-24-2014, 11:34 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
We're going to have serious problems if Colborne is on the 2nd line.
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I really disagree. I thought he started to look really strong the last 25-30 games on the wing. Hopefully he's the 6th best forward out of the top 6, but I think there's a home for him there down the road.
Plus it's nice to have someone else on a line to take draws.
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