X-Men director Brian Singer accused of under age sex w/ 17 yr old boy

[TorqueDog]

While I really have no other course of action but to withhold judgment, I will say I'm a bit suspicious because it's being brought forth as a lawsuit and not as a criminal charge.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Locke

Wow. Just....wow. I dont get things like this. I dont get where it becomes fun to force people to do things they dont want to do.

The stories I have heard are not nearly as bad as what he is being accused of and of course nothing about underage kids and rape.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by nik-

Yeah, I guess I just don't see that as something that was likely forced on a person. It's illegal to provide alcohol to a minor though, so I guess there's that.

they talked about drugs being administered in his drink, in other words he was being roofied basically so that is in fact being forced on a person.

Administering a date rape drug on someone by dropping a pill in their drink without the victim knowing is a big problem.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

they talked about drugs being administered in his drink, in other words he was being roofied basically so that is in fact being forced on a person.

Administering a date rape drug on someone by dropping a pill in their drink without the victim knowing is a big problem.

As is 'luring' someone to another state (Hawaii) that has a lower age of consent.

[troutman]

The suit alleges a group of adult males similarly positioned in the entertainment industry that maintained and exploited boys in a sordid sex ring.

That could be true, but often these kinds of allegations turn out to be urban legends.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by nik-

I don't think "director" and "aspiring actor" is what the position of authority clauses were meant to address.

Someone who has the authority to give you a job or remove you from a job isn't in a position of authority?

How do you figure that? A swimming instructor is in a position authority, and they are just trying to make the kid learn how to swim. A guy who can make or break someone's career surely would be in that same category.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Locke

See, I hate this. If he did it then a civil suit solves nothing. No justice is done.

At the same time, as is usually the case, the truth in situations such as these is often found somewhere in the middle.

It's not about justice, it's about damages. If he indeed suffered a significant amount of trauma due to this, I'm such a way that it can be demonstrated he was impacted financially, then I think he would be entitled to some form of financial restitution.

This is all speculation on my part, but I hate to see victims dismissed so easily because their actions don't fit a preconceived timeliness set by people who can't possibly understand what they've been through. If he's lying, then I hope Singer counters for defamation.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Oh the comments I would love to make but shan't since this is an ongoing case. Let's just say after working on the first two X-Men films and hearing a number of the stories during those times I am not surprised by the allegations.

Kind of makes you wonder why people weren't doing anything about this or similar actions if it was a common 'story'.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by rubecube

It's not about justice, it's about damages. If he indeed suffered a significant amount of trauma due to this, I'm such a way that it can be demonstrated he was impacted financially, then I think he would be entitled to some form of financial restitution.

This is all speculation on my part, but I hate to see victims dismissed so easily because their actions don't fit a preconceived timeliness set by people who can't possibly understand what they've been through. If he's lying, then I hope Singer counters for defamation.

I have a hard time with this. Damages? So hes just sucked it up for 15 years, but now is the time to sue for damages?

If he'd said something after it happened then maybe he'd get some form of justice, but instead, waiting all of this time smacks of not wanting Singer, someone this person believes is a rapist, behind bars as opposed to some cash.

This sounds more like blackmail or extortion more than anything.

I feel that he should have wanted Singer in jail more than he'd want money.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Oh the comments I would love to make but shan't since this is an ongoing case. Let's just say after working on the first two X-Men films and hearing a number of the stories during those times I am not surprised by the allegations.

Did Hugh Jackman actually have adamantium wolverine claws or was that just CGI?

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Muta

Did Hugh Jackman actually have adamantium wolverine claws or was that just CGI?

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Kind of makes you wonder why people weren't doing anything about this or similar actions if it was a common 'story'.

Claws are real, Jackman is a very dedicated actor.

GL, I never heard anything about underage boys and the only thing I ever heard about that would have been illegal was drugs, copious amounts of drugs and prostitutes. All rumors of course.

We hear outlandish stories about a lot of the people we work with some based in truth others out of left field.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

We hear outlandish stories about a lot of the people we work with some based in truth others out of left field.

Gerbils!

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Gerbils!

I didn't work on that movie...

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Locke

I have a hard time with this. Damages? So hes just sucked it up for 15 years, but now is the time to sue for damages?

If he'd said something after it happened then maybe he'd get some form of justice, but instead, waiting all of this time smacks of not wanting Singer, someone this person believes is a rapist, behind bars as opposed to some cash.

This sounds more like blackmail or extortion more than anything.

I feel that he should have wanted Singer in jail more than he'd want money.

We both know rich, white dudes don't really see jail in the U.S.

Again you're approaching this as someone who (and I'm making an assumption here) has never been traumatized like this. Like I said, this isn't atypical. There can be any number of reasons why victims do not pursue recourse immediately. It's not necessarily that he "sucked it up" for 15 years, it could just be that he finally hit a breaking point. It's not uncommon for sexual assault victims to have trouble holding down jobs or maintaining personal relationships. Many also go on to suffer severe substance abuse problems. So yes, I believe that if this was caused by Singer and these things can be demonstrated then he should be financially accountable.

I also believe in civil proceedings that the victim does not have to testify, which could be another reason he's pursuing it in this way.

[Swarly]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Someone who has the authority to give you a job or remove you from a job isn't in a position of authority?

How do you figure that? A swimming instructor is in a position authority, and they are just trying to make the kid learn how to swim. A guy who can make or break someone's career surely would be in that same category.

Oh no, I may be in some hot water very soon here with many girls where I claimed to be an artful adult video director and had them audition for roles.