[News] CBC to cut 657 jobs and no longer compete for professional sport rights

[ae118]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

CBC radio has always annoyed me to an extent. There's some really dull programs on there and most of everything comes across as from the baby boomer generation's point of view, or generally catered to the middle aged to senior population. While they've been willing to cover just about every and any story, there's always been a level of closed mindedness on a lot of issues that seeps through because of that. The comedy programs on the weekends can be entertaining.. the debaters, I think it's called? That's a good one. But generally I'm not a big fan.

I think Michael Enright fits into the category you've described, but I actually think a lot of the programming caters to a younger audience these days (Q, DNTO, The Debaters, etc.). And rather than close-mindedness, I hear just the opposite in most shows, and I'm pretty quick to be bothered by things like that. Honestly, it's a cliche, but it really does get me thinking and keep me informed.


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[IgiTang]

What does this mean for Ron and Don?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

What does this mean for Ron and Don?

Nothing. It was already announced that Coach's Corner will continue for the foreseeable future.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by nik-

Did they hire you?

No thank god. I told them to piss off after I got a random call from the Chief Engineer at 4 in the morning rather bluntly asking me if I was excepting the job or not and when was I starting. I hadn't even received the written proposal from them yet, salary, benefits, holidays etc. Plus once I did get their offer it wasn't even close to what we had negotiated over the phone or during the board.

Bush league.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Pretty sure they pay people to do absolutely nothing around there.

That's a by-product of most government operations. I shudder to think about just how much of the billions they have received in taxpayer money over the years has been completely wasted and misused.

[Troubamaker]

How can anyone hate a station that gave us the Beachcombers? I hope Relic visits you in all your dreams.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by getbak

Nothing. It was already announced that Coach's Corner will continue for the foreseeable future.

I get that. But what's the "foreseeable future"? Does that window get reduced? Is HNIC on CBC done after this season or do they start making cuts immediately?

I would rather my tax payer dollars go to retaining many hardworking Canadians for the " foreseeable future" rather than employing Ron and Don and many others of the HNIC panel.

[Freeway]

A lot of really talented people are gonna be out of work.

[SebC]

A lot of CBC radio programming seems to me to not be "in the national interest", and therefore not something we need to subsidize.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That's a by-product of most government operations. I shudder to think about just how much of the billions they have received in taxpayer money over the years has been completely wasted and misused.

One story I know well is Sony made a machine called the BVW-75 which at the time (late 80' to mid 90's) was a high end VCR, professional level coming it at around $75k to $95K depending on options. The CBC already had a number of these through out Canada, no big deal they were the it technology in the business at the time and were still used heavily in the mid 2000's.

Component Serial Digital (CCIR 601) was just starting to emerge in the early 90's and the CBC had to have it. They paid Sony to adopt a line of the 75's to handle the new digital standard. This would give them analog tape to a digital output. Sony even told them that they were developing a new, completely digital machine that would have an option to play the old analog tapes and would be ready in a year or two. Not fast enough for the good old CBC.

Now also keep in mind going digital required a completely new infrastructure for your building, cable, patchfields, routers were no longer compatible. Didn't matter to the CBC. So Sony pushes ahead with these new digital BVW machines and eventually do come out at a price tag of over $100K. Not 100% certain but I am pretty sure the CBC were the only company in the world to buy these machines to the tune of 30 I believe. Less than a year later Sony came out with the DVW-500 (a most excellent machine) that made CBC's DVW-75 completely irrelevant. Of course the CBC had to have the shinny new toys and abandoned the BVW's. They were sold off but a fraction of the price. I had one or two when I worked in Edmonton and two or three out here in Vancouver but they were a rare machine for sure.

An absolute waste of money when it was needed and they were not even ready to use. We completely rebuilt Super Channel in the mid 90's to take advantage of SDI. No easy task unless you are moving buildings.

Heard that story from two different people over a span of two years. Both times the machine was referred to as the CBC Special and it is what we called it every time we had to work on it.

[ae118]

Originally Posted by SebC

A lot of CBC radio programming seems to me to not be "in the national interest", and therefore not something we need to subsidize.

I'm not sure why you'd get that impression. I listen to Radio 1 and sometimes Radio 3, and they are absolutely meeting their mandate.

http://www.cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/explore/mandate/


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[The Original FFIV]

To save cbc I think you have to kill the main tv network. Make CBC Newsworld the main station and stick to news. Let CTV and specialty channels develop Canadian shows and assume the risk. When you have jeopardy, wheel of fortune and coronation street as the top programs on a network that is supposed to deliver and promote Canadian content, there's a problem.

Have to keep radio but maybe you don't need radio one and two. Don't get me wrong I would like both but is funding there? Maybe you kill radio three and the online stuff in order to save one and two.

I question the allocation of funding. 400k plus for McLean and 800k for Cherry? Maybe they need to look at their payscales as the reason why they are always in crisis.

[kremb]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I can't wait for the day when this $1.2B waste of money is shut down for good.

and that stupid PBS that has other people saying things I don't agree with too.

[saskflames69]

As long as their sports production crew is brought along over to Rogers I couldn't care less about the CBC's future.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Feel bad for the people that lost their jobs but this was a long time coming. Anyone that thinks the CBC does a good job on sports obviously never watched the CFL on CBC which was of RSN quality. There's a reason CFL popularity took off when TSN started covering it and it's because CBC did a horrendous job with it. They did do a good job on Olympics and HNIC was okay but had degraded over the years due to the addition of annoying personalities such as Healey, Stock, etc and extreme focus on the Leafs.

Bitter sweet as the worst sports network in North America now owns HNIC but it's the sign of the times that sports broadcasting is big $$$ and a public funded station can't nor should it be able compete with taxpayer money against private broadcasters for the rights to broadcast professional sports.

The only reason they kept afloat all these years. The Leafs pay the bills.

[FireGilbert]

I don't understand the point of having HNIC on CBC from CBC's perspective. From what I have heard the programing is being done by Rogers and Rogers gets all the ad money, what does the CBC get out of the deal? From a business perspective it seems silly but maybe they are just being used as a public service to get hockey into more homes on a Saturday night?

The only benefit to CBC I can think of is that the ratings for any of their late Saturday/early Sunday programming will be increased due to drunks leaving their TV on. Wouldn't the CBC be better off showing Simpsons repeats on Saturday nights and collecting their own ad revenue?

[shogged]

end of an era

[cal_guy]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

I don't understand the point of having HNIC on CBC from CBC's perspective. From what I have heard the programing is being done by Rogers and Rogers gets all the ad money, what does the CBC get out of the deal? From a business perspective it seems silly but maybe they are just being used as a public service to get hockey into more homes on a Saturday night?

The only benefit to CBC I can think of is that the ratings for any of their late Saturday/early Sunday programming will be increased due to drunks leaving their TV on. Wouldn't the CBC be better off showing Simpsons repeats on Saturday nights and collecting their own ad revenue?

CBC gets adtime including on the Rogers networks that they can use to advertise their programs.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

The only reason they kept afloat all these years. The Leafs pay the bills.

I could have sworn taxpayers were footing the money for the bills. HNIC was pretty successful in the 80's when Ballard's Leafs were but a footnote and the Flames were bombing them 8-1. The thing is that the could televise every Saturday Night Leafs game and still get the same amount of viewers and advertising dollars but they went a step further in making every Coaches Corner into "Cherry, Ron, and the Leafs". Leafs this, Leafs that. They went way overboard and like I said I feel bad for the regular people that will lose their jobs but I don't feel sorry for HNIC or CBC at all as they turned a national program into a Toronto program and destroyed it in the process.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I could have sworn taxpayers were footing the money for the bills. HNIC was pretty successful in the 80's when Ballard's Leafs were but a footnote and the Flames were bombing them 8-1. The thing is that the could televise every Saturday Night Leafs game and still get the same amount of viewers and advertising dollars but they went a step further in making every Coaches Corner into "Cherry, Ron, and the Leafs". Leafs this, Leafs that. They went way overboard and like I said I feel bad for the regular people that will lose their jobs but I don't feel sorry for HNIC or CBC at all.

You swear wrong.