Sportsnet Production Quality

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by AC

Simmer used to work on the Phoenix broadcasts if I remember correctly.

I think Rob Kerr is excellent on the radio, I'm not sure why it doesn't work on TV but it just doesn't. Millions as play by play with Kerr as the colour commentator would work much better IMO.

Kerr is good on the radio as a host. Roger is okay as a play-by-play guy but he actually a good host and I'd prefer he stays there.

Kerr on colour commentary would be brutal. That's a job you want for someone that is going to provide a lot of thoughts and insight about the game. That's why it goes to former players. Rob Kerr isn't going to provide any interesting insight as a colour guy.

Hire Loubardias back, put Rhett Warrener in the analyst spot and see how it goes. With Millions hosting I think it would be a good team.

[AC]

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-08-...burgh-penguins

Looks like Simmer was the Ducks radio colour comentator before going to work for the Phoenix TV broadcast.

I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but hearing him say the same things every chance he gets is maddening.

"And again, (...)"
"(...) at that point."

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Hire Loubardias back, put Rhett Warrener in the analyst spot and see how it goes. With Millions hosting I think it would be a good team.

...or at least someone similar who played for the Flames. Peplinski was in that role, at times, in the early-mid 90s. It gives more legitimacy to their investment in the games, and draws fans of the team in.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by AC

Simmer used to work on the Phoenix broadcasts if I remember correctly.

I think Rob Kerr is excellent on the radio, I'm not sure why it doesn't work on TV but it just doesn't. Millions as play by play with Kerr as the colour commentator would work much better IMO.

I would love to have Loubardias or Millions as the PBP and Kerr as the colour commentary. I like Kerr, but with how utterly useless and detrimental Simmer is to the broadcast, it makes it very clear Kerr can't handle an entire broadcast himself.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

...or at least someone similar who played for the Flames. Peplinski was in that role, at times, in the early-mid 90s. It gives more legitimacy to their investment in the games, and draws fans of the team in.

With the vast amount of former NHL'ers kicking around Calgary post career it's crazy they don't go with a former Flame or someone better then Simmer.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by AC

Simmer used to work on the Phoenix broadcasts if I remember correctly.

I think Rob Kerr is excellent on the radio, I'm not sure why it doesn't work on TV but it just doesn't. Millions as play by play with Kerr as the colour commentator would work much better IMO.

I heard someone once say that with the best hockey announcers. you don't even need to be able to understand the words to know if something mundane, exciting or important is happening on the ice. Even if you don't know English, you can listen to Bob Cole tone and cadence and understand if its a big moment or the game has gotten exciting.

Kerr doesn't have this skill. He starts screaming at wacky point and gets caught in stories with Simmer during a breakaway. If you didn't understand English you'd literally have no idea what is going on or why the announcer is screaming when the net comes off (PENALTY SHOT! when there isn't one).

English speakers can probably get this when you catch a soccer game or even pro wrestling broadcast in a foreign language. You have no idea what they are saying but you can tell when something is about to happen.

[PeteMoss]

^^ This skill is even more important today with people distracted or half watching a game while fiddling with their phone/tablet/computer. If you do that tonight during HNIC (Cole or Hughson) you'll rarely miss a goal or a big play b/c the PBP voice will alert you to something happening. When you do it during a Flames broadcast you basically miss everything and have to rely on replays.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

^^ This skill is even more important today with people distracted or half watching a game while fiddling with their phone/tablet/computer. If you do that tonight during HNIC (Cole or Hughson) you'll rarely miss a goal or a big play b/c the PBP voice will alert you to something happening. When you do it during a Flames broadcast you basically miss everything and have to rely on replays.

Interesting you say this, because that was me last night. I'm not even a big 'phone' guy, but the broadcast picture quality is so weak lately that it's hard to even look at the screen...many times, it's like background noise that I'll check out if there's a goal.

(I actually had to stop myself and point out to myself that I was doing work on the laptop--on a Friday night!--rather than watch the game exclusively.)

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

^^ This skill is even more important today with people distracted or half watching a game while fiddling with their phone/tablet/computer. If you do that tonight during HNIC (Cole or Hughson) you'll rarely miss a goal or a big play b/c the PBP voice will alert you to something happening. When you do it during a Flames broadcast you basically miss everything and have to rely on replays.

This is where the sound delay comes in handy. If I'm looking at my laptop, and hear a goal called, I have time to look up and see it happen in real time!

[pseudoreality]

One of my biggest beefs is the little commercials they try to stick in there between whistles, which are not true commercial breaks. You get two or three commercial breaks a period, show your lame Sports Select ads then and not when a fight breaks out. That just drives me nuts and really takes me out of the game.

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[Two Fivenagame]

This may be over simplifying things but why can't they have Peter Maher do play by play for radio AND TV? Just use the same audio? People do it anyway?

Kerr and Simmer have to be the bottom of the barrel.

But hey, lets repeat the same 3 annoying commercials every 2 minutes.

I think serious changes need to be had at the top because even their radio quality is the lowest i've ever experienced.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Instead of list out all the things I don't like about Sportsnet's coverage, I'll list the things I do like:

- Roger Millions is a good host. I enjoy how he sets up the game and gives us the important little tidbits before sending it up to Kerr and Simmer. He also does a good job at asking the pertinent questions to the players during the intermission (it's not his fault the players give boring answers).

- Darren Millard is a half-decent panel host. Obviously he's no James Duthie. We're not going to get a James Duthie on Sportsnet because he's one of the best in the world at what he does. Millard does a good job, but Kyper and Maclean bring him down IMO.

- I like Kerr's passion and excitement for the Flames. You can tell he loves this team and it shows at times. I'm just not a huge fan of his PBP.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I heard someone once say that with the best hockey announcers. you don't even need to be able to understand the words to know if something mundane, exciting or important is happening on the ice. Even if you don't know English, you can listen to Bob Cole tone and cadence and understand if its a big moment or the game has gotten exciting.

Kerr doesn't have this skill. He starts screaming at wacky point and gets caught in stories with Simmer during a breakaway. If you didn't understand English you'd literally have no idea what is going on or why the announcer is screaming when the net comes off (PENALTY SHOT! when there isn't one).

English speakers can probably get this when you catch a soccer game or even pro wrestling broadcast in a foreign language. You have no idea what they are saying but you can tell when something is about to happen.

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

^^ This skill is even more important today with people distracted or half watching a game while fiddling with their phone/tablet/computer. If you do that tonight during HNIC (Cole or Hughson) you'll rarely miss a goal or a big play b/c the PBP voice will alert you to something happening. When you do it during a Flames broadcast you basically miss everything and have to rely on replays.

This is a very good point. I've noticed with games this season that when I'm not fully paying attention to Flames games on SN that I miss out on big moments until after they happen, or look up to see nothing of great significance has occurred. When I'm watching a NBC/TSN/CBC game though, the PBP tone alerts me before I miss out on something big coming up.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I heard someone once say that with the best hockey announcers. you don't even need to be able to understand the words to know if something mundane, exciting or important is happening on the ice. Even if you don't know English, you can listen to Bob Cole tone and cadence and understand if its a big moment or the game has gotten exciting.

Kerr doesn't have this skill. He starts screaming at wacky point and gets caught in stories with Simmer during a breakaway. If you didn't understand English you'd literally have no idea what is going on or why the announcer is screaming when the net comes off (PENALTY SHOT! when there isn't one).

English speakers can probably get this when you catch a soccer game or even pro wrestling broadcast in a foreign language. You have no idea what they are saying but you can tell when something is about to happen.

This is a brilliant point.

You go over all the best PBP guys in the business and they all have this trait. Cuthbert, Cole, Miller, Hughson, Emrick. I know a lot of people don't like him, but even Jack Edwards has this trait.

[StAlbertFlame]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You don't think TSN would? Seriously?

The Flames are paying Rogers a lot of money and we as fans should be able to expect better than this. Never, ever settle for substandard or that's all you will ever get.

TSN and CBC had years and years to decide to broadcast a Flames game or Oilers game that did not have them playing the Canucks, Leafs or Canadians or each other.

SN may not have the best quality, but at least they took the initiative and decided to broadcast; on a regular basis, Flames and Oilers games. Before that you had CFAC and ITV. TSN and CBC could have had the rights cheap during this period.

How many times I hoped for a Flames/Flyers game or a Flames/Bruins Game only to see the Flames/Leafs or worse...no Flames at all on CBC. Then TSN came along and we thought, finally, a The Sports Network, they will play Flames games, Not so much, we quickly found out that TSN really means Toronto Sports Network and still does.

Yes...Kerr is BRUTAL...So what!?! I love SN... because they broadcast Flames games....period!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by StAlbertFlame

TSN and CBC had years and years to decide to broadcast a Flames game or Oilers game that did not have them playing the Canucks, Leafs or Canadians or each other.

SN may not have the best quality, but at least they took the initiative and decided to broadcast; on a regular basis, Flames and Oilers games. Before that you had CFAC and ITV. TSN and CBC could have had the rights cheap during this period.

How many times I hoped for a Flames/Flyers game or a Flames/Bruins Game only to see the Flames/Leafs or worse...no Flames at all on CBC. Then TSN came along and we thought, finally, a The Sports Network, they will play Flames games, Not so much, we quickly found out that TSN really means Toronto Sports Network and still does.

Yes...Kerr is BRUTAL...So what!?! I love SN... because they broadcast Flames games....period!

I don't think you get it that SN isn't doing any of us favours by broadcasting the Flames schedule. If they weren't broadcasting Flames games TSN wold be doing all of them. CBC doesn't do regional broadcasts and TSN doesn't have the rights for regional Flames broadcasts so I'm not sure how you could single them out for not doing every Flames game when they don't have the rights or don't do regional.

[StAlbertFlame]

You have a lot of faith in TSN... My experience tells me otherwise...I believe TSN would never broadcast a Flames schedule.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by StAlbertFlame

You have a lot of faith in TSN... My experience tells me otherwise...I believe TSN would never broadcast a Flames schedule.

Why would they do the Jets schedule but not a bigger market in the Flames?

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

His voice goes up and down randomly, he doesn't know what to get excited about or when to hold back.

The worst was last night when it was during a timeout he all of a sudden shouted "HUGE" in the middle of a sentence. He actually scared me. All quiet then BAM Kerr just starts yelling.

[Erick Estrada]

That whole Brian Skrudland bobble head moment where Kerr got more excited than Maher when the Flames beat the Canucks in game 7 in 2004 was an all time low for me.