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flamesfan1297 · 02-24-2014, 04:45 PM

I can't say as Iwould really bblame Marty. He should of been on the team to begin with. Not sure. Believe the rumors though

Alberta_Beef · 02-24-2014, 04:51 PM

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This is crap. Either report it or don't. If it's a rumour, it's bull#### until confirmed by someone who knows, on the record. God, Kypreos is a d-bag...

Count me in on that one.

How is this any different than what Bob McKenzie does? I don't see you bitching about him.

Enoch Root · 02-24-2014, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by flamesfan1297

I can't say as Iwould really bblame Marty. He should of been on the team to begin with. Not sure. Believe the rumors though

(not directed at you specifically, but to all those supporting him)

Let's say Giordano was American and Burke didn't pick him for the US team. If Giordano subsequently asked for a trade, would you feel the same way?

IMO, this is extremely selfish (especially for a captain) and screams that he doesn't have a clue about how a team like that gets built. Blaming Yzerman is a brutal reaction to his personal butthurt.

sureLoss · 02-24-2014, 06:02 PM

Peter Maher speculated the next guy would not be employed by an NHL team and would have NHL GMs under him advising to avoid future awkwardness like MSL.

Huntingwhale · 02-24-2014, 06:04 PM

I don't care if Bob Mckenzie or Usama Bin Laden reports it. I won't believe it until I actually see that St. Louis has gotten traded. And shame on people for throwing him under the bus, when all the facts aren't even out. 2 weeks ago people were ranting and raving about what a classy individual Marty is. Now he's a selfish whiner, all on the coattails of an 'insider' most people here hate. Good lord. St. Louis deserves the benefit of a doubt.

Having said that though, it is extremely suspicious that Yzerman is retiring from the role of Canadian GM and these rumors emerging all at once. It will be interesting to see how the trade deadline is for TB.

Yoho · 02-24-2014, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by flamesfan1297

I can't say as Iwould really bblame Marty. He should of been on the team to begin with. Not sure. Believe the rumors though

He didn't look dangerous in any game.

Hard to imagine Giroux wouldn't have been a better choice for those limited minutes.

Little sympathy for MSL

vilzeh · 02-25-2014, 01:40 AM

Imo MSL played a good final game. It's not like they had any player who dominated. Crosby was weak or out of place the whole tournament, of course he's a pro so he scores in the final game. Toews was solid entire tournament though, but seriously, who dominated? except for the team as a whole.

saXon · 02-25-2014, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by vilzeh

Imo MSL played a good final game. It's not like they had any player who dominated. Crosby was weak or out of place the whole tournament, of course he's a pro so he scores in the final game. Toews was solid entire tournament though, but seriously, who dominated? except for the team as a whole.

Price.

Tsawwassen · 02-25-2014, 04:06 AM

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As long as Babcock is back then I'm not worried.

Babcock should do both, coach and manage. If not managing, get Ken Holland.

vilzeh · 02-25-2014, 07:39 AM

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Price.

Sure, but my point was more about the offensive players. Imo Doughty played like a monster also.

Enoch Root · 02-25-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vilzeh

Imo MSL played a good final game. It's not like they had any player who dominated. Crosby was weak or out of place the whole tournament, of course he's a pro so he scores in the final game. Toews was solid entire tournament though, but seriously, who dominated? except for the team as a whole.

That's garbage.

First, Crosby was solid the entire tournament, with his line absolutely dominating territorially in every game. The puck wasn't going in for them, but people should be able to see past that.

As to the second part of the bold - what does that even mean? The Swedes are all pros, so why didn't they score in the final game?

In the biggest game of the tournament, at a crucial time, when the Swedes were one shot from changing the game, Crosby single-handedly ends it. Period.

How in God's name does that translate to "he's a pro so he scores in the final game"?

nik- · 02-25-2014, 09:00 AM

I think you're taking his statement of "he's a pro" as the literal definition of professional hockey player when I think he meant it as a statement of his overall level as a player.

vilzeh · 02-25-2014, 09:03 AM

^ Bingo. :P

strombad · 02-25-2014, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That's garbage.

First, Crosby was solid the entire tournament, with his line absolutely dominating territorially in every game. The puck wasn't going in for them, but people should be able to see past that.

As to the second part of the bold - what does that even mean? The Swedes are all pros, so why didn't they score in the final game?

In the biggest game of the tournament, at a crucial time, when the Swedes were one shot from changing the game, Crosby single-handedly ends it. Period.

How in God's name does that translate to "he's a pro so he scores in the final game"?

To be fair, Toews is the one who ended it

Enoch Root · 02-25-2014, 09:07 AM

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To be fair, Toews is the one who ended it

Toews got the game-winner but Crosby's goal changed the complexion of the game

Enoch Root · 02-25-2014, 09:08 AM

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^ Bingo. :P

You claimed he was weak and out of position the whole tournament and then you down-played his goal. Don't hide behind semantics now.

timbit · 02-25-2014, 09:11 AM

“It is amazing to see the guys that have that raw talent and ability commit themselves to doing all the little things right, and we knew that’s what it was going to take in this tournament to win a championship,” said center Jonathan Toews. “Guys were willing to do that. I would say it’s a great team to be a part of.”

“It was a feeling of absolute trust that as soon as you jump over the boards you’re going out there to do the exact same thing that the line before you did, to keep that momentum going,” Toews said. “We never stopped. We just kept coming at them. We were backchecking. We were forechecking. We didn’t give them any space. I think it was fun to watch and fun to be a part of a team like that.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympic...191750821.html

Enoch Root · 02-25-2014, 09:23 AM

he's no Kessel though

strombad · 02-25-2014, 09:27 AM

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You claimed he was weak and out of position the whole tournament and then you down-played his goal. Don't hide behind semantics now.

I think maybe you're just overreacting a bit. Crosby was good, not amazing, but produced when it mattered. Viz seemed to say just that, so I have no idea why you need to rag on him.

timbit · 02-25-2014, 09:31 AM

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I think maybe you're just overreacting a bit. .

"Crosby was weak or out of place the whole tournament". Vilzeh

Overreaction?