Forsberg Irate about Gold-Medal Referee Selection

[kermitology]

I love that the refs played pretty much zero role in the game. Canada dominated on merit.

[Miniac]

Havn't read the whole thread but aren't the refs selected before the final game?

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Miniac

Havn't read the whole thread but aren't the refs selected before the final game?

They were selected before the semi-finals and agreed upon by all 4 remaining teams.

[$ven27]

Meh, don't see anything wrong with it. He's a passionate guy wanting the best for his team. No different than if in 2010 there was 3 European officials and 1 North American and Yzerman complained.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by $ven27

Meh, don't see anything wrong with it. He's a passionate guy wanting the best for his team. No different than if in 2010 there was 3 European officials and 1 North American and Yzerman complained.

There's a lot of difference. The European officials are incompetent and biased.

I guess a lot of you have never seen the European officials at work.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

They were selected before the semi-finals and agreed upon by all 4 remaining teams.

can anyone confirm this?

If true it just makes Forsberg look like a petty moron.

[dino7c]

NHL refs are by far the most well trained in the world and a majority of them are canadian

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Guys, Forseburg is doing his job complaining about the fact the officials were Canadian playing against Canada.

Does he know that they'll be inpartial and fair? Yes. However, he needs to help support his team however possible.

At the end of the day, in hockey or in life, DON'T EVER LET THE TRUTH GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY.

That's all this is.

[Fredrik]

I think the problems for most swedes has been "what if". Why make it possible to ask that question? No one argues that NHL has better official, but why not choose two us citizens and two europeans? Four us citizens. If they had choose swedish referees, and, what would canadians have said? If, say, Gretzky would have comment that he think it is wrong, would canadians have called him a cry baby?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Fredrik

I think the problems for most swedes has been "what if". Why make it possible to ask that question? No one argues that NHL has better official, but why not choose two us citizens and two europeans? Four us citizens. If they had choose swedish referees, and, what would canadians have said? If, say, Gretzky would have comment that he think it is wrong, would canadians have called him a cry baby?

Yes we would have. The crying and outrage should be done at the meeting to determine the refs, not to a reporter.

This deal is in place since the NHL went in 98. NHL refs in the medal round or the NHL doesn't go. The fact that a russian ref got the bronze medal game was amazing in itself.

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes we would have. The crying and outrage should be done at the meeting to determine the refs, not to a reporter.

This deal is in place since the NHL went in 98. NHL refs in the medal round or the NHL doesn't go. The fact that a russian ref got the bronze medal game was amazing in itself.

To Forsbergs defence, it started with a journalist writing a columne about it, and then they asked him (Forsberg) what he thinks about it. The answe was basically "I agree". That started the snowball ...

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

There's a lot of difference. The European officials are incompetent and biased.

I guess a lot of you have never seen the European officials at work.

While I agree with your assessment, maybe people like Foresburg don't, which makes it exactly the same when Yzerman did it.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Fredrik

To Forsbergs defence, it started with a journalist writing a columne about it, and then they asked him (Forsberg) what he thinks about it. The answe was basically "I agree". That started the snowball ...

He shouldn't say "I agree". He should have said what the rest of the Swedish team said.

"These are the best referees and we're happy they are working the game. We will play our hardest and hope for a good result".

How hard is that? Do you think Jari Kurri would have complained if Finland had made the final?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Why should he agree if he doesn't though? He didn't like the ref selection, fair if he wants to complain. At least he did it pre game versus post game whining.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Meers

Kelly Sutherland is exactly the wrong referee for a gold medal game.

He can always be counted on by Colin Campbell to call a game the way the NHL's head office wants it called.

I assume the same applies in the Olympics.

Terrible, terrible choice. It will suggest the result is fixed.

In all of the years of people saying that the NHL tells the refs to influence the game for one team over the other and certain teams aren't meant to get to the finals, has there ever been any concrete proof to back this up?

I am honestly curious. Because you would think in the 25 or so years I have had to listen to people bitch about this, somebody somewhere would have slipped up or confessed.

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

He shouldn't say "I agree". He should have said what the rest of the Swedish team said.

"These are the best referees and we're happy they are working the game. We will play our hardest and hope for a good result".

How hard is that? Do you think Jari Kurri would have complained if Finland had made the final?

The team off course said what they did, otherwise they'd be stupid, slaying the referees prior to the game. He just said that he thinks it wrong. when his country plays another country, the officials should be from a third country. I also agree with it. If Canada would have faced off against us, with US officials who makes a decision that highly affects the game, Canadians wouldn't be mad afterwards?

I don't know kurri, but yes, I think he would.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

can anyone confirm this?

If true it just makes Forsberg look like a petty moron.

In post 40 of this thread Lanny posted a link to an article about this on the Olympic website I think.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

There's a lot of difference. The European officials are incompetent and biased.

I guess a lot of you have never seen the European officials at work.

That's your opinion, not facts.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by $ven27

That's your opinion, not facts.

As said I guess you never watched European referees work Canada hockey games. It was a farce as the head of the IIHF hated the Canadians. Here's an example of their skulduggery at the 64 Olympics.

The tournament format in 1964 was a round robin among the eight competing nations, and through five games all was true to form. Canada was playing well, as were the Soviets, and their meeting on the final day seemed sure to decide gold. But a 3-1 loss to Czechoslovakia hampered Canada’s chances for gold, and on the final day the Soviets eked out a 3-2 victory after scoring the only goal of the final period. Still, Canada had won the bronze medal. Or had it? As the team filed into the stadium for the medal ceremonies, it was informed the tie-break formula had been changed. The Canadians and Czechs were tied for third place, but the changed the tiebreaker to goal differential between ALL teams, placing the Czechs in bronze and Canada fourth.

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/Tea...pics/1964/Home

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

As said I guess you never watched European referees work Canada hockey games. It was a farce as the head of the IIHF hated the Canadians. Here's an example of their skulduggery at the 64 Olympics.



http://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/Tea...pics/1964/Home

Really? 1964?