Cammy and flames talking extension

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Burke has stated he is not happy with aspects of the team. If he signs Cammy then expect that Hudler is ion the way out

I'd rather keep Hudler than Cammy

[jesters91]

If there was a poll on trading or keeping Cammy in Calgary my vote goes to the one involving a plane ticket.

[stemit14]

Although I understand that hudler would bring back more in a trade, I don't think it's a good idea to trade him... He's the best offensive player on a team that struggles to score. Without him, the flames are going to be even more hard pressed to create offense

[Nehkara]

As much as I like Cammy, he's not right for this team going forward. The Flames need to move some vets for assets at the deadline.

My thoughts:

Cammalleri for 1st + prospect
Stempniak for 2nd
Galiardi for 4th
Butler for 3rd
O'Brien for a bag of pucks

Maybe boost some of these trades by taking on bad contracts in return (can use our two compliance buyouts in the summer) or by retaining salary.

I think Glencross will be staying. He loves it here and has a straight up NMC (no limitations or modifications).

Hudler plays well, isn't paid a lot for what he provides, and seems to fit in really well with the team and especially the kids. I would like to keep him for the foreseeable future.

[dying4acup]

I'm in the camp that believes this is a tactic to drive up the asking price. We are hearing, for the first time this year, that there are multiple suitors for Cammy. Where there is smoke, there is fire...

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I'd rather keep Hudler than Cammy

Yes and no. Yes, in the sense that he is a really useful player, has a very manageable, long-term contract, and by all counts is very good in the room. No, in the sense that Hudler is unquestionably the most valuable, tradable asset that the Flames have in the form of a veteran player not named "Giordano". The Flames could get ALOT for Hudler ... would it be worth the potential loss of a really good player?

[Poe969]

I would love to see this exact same team next year. This team is terrible and it would give us a great shot at McDavid or Eichel

[Husky]

I cant see the Flames resigning him long term, >1 year term and I cannot imagine Cammalleri be willing to sign for 1 year only.

My guess is Burke feels Cammalleri is worth a similar package Kaberle netted.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I would love to see this exact same team next year. This team is terrible and it would give us a great shot at McDavid or Eichel

don't worry we'll be right in the mix

[FBI]

Let's sign all our vets.
Cammy 4 years, Stempniak 4 years, galiardi 4 year extension, butler 7 years.

Must stay patient, must stay patient.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by FBI

Let's sign all our vets.
Cammy 4 years, Stempniak 4 years, galiardi 4 year extension, butler 7 years.

Must stay patient, must stay patient.

lol...

CP would be down for days.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yes and no. Yes, in the sense that he is a really useful player, has a very manageable, long-term contract, and by all counts is very good in the room. No, in the sense that Hudler is unquestionably the most valuable, tradable asset that the Flames have in the form of a veteran player not named "Giordano". The Flames could get ALOT for Hudler ... would it be worth the potential loss of a really good player?

Things would be pretty bleak from an entertainment product point of view it the Flames traded Hudler. He's really the only offensive catalyst on this team.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Things would be pretty bleak from an entertainment product point of view it the Flames traded Hudler. He's really the only offensive catalyst on this team.

Depends on the player they get back in return. I just don't see a Flames team that has both Cammy and Hudler on it.

Burke has probably been getting low ball offers and is threatening to sign Cammy to gain leverage in a trade. That or he loves the type of pro Cammy is and is getting better offers on Hudler

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by flamesfan55

During the Edmonton game they had the insiders on and they mentiond that Cammalleri and Burke were talking extension buts its believed that Burke wont pay market price so option 2 is trade him and the asking price is a first and a prospect.

If Burke can get more for Cammalleri than what Feaster fetched for Iginla and Bouwmeester sign me up as I believe that would be the best for the organization.

That said I hope fans are coming to terms with the fact that things will be like this for a few years and the re-signing of Stajan and possibly (if there's any merit to the rumour) interest in re-signing Cammalleri is an indication that there's no quick fixes or help on the horizon from free agency and trade and what we see today is largely what we will see next season and maybe the one after that. This organization has to do this the right way which is building from within.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If Burke can get more for Cammalleri than what Feaster fetched for Iginla and Bouwmeester sign me up as I believe that would be the best for the organization.

That said I hope fans are coming to terms with the fact that things will be like this for a few years and the re-signing of Stajan and possibly (if there's any merit to the rumour) interest in re-signing Cammalleri is an indication that there's no quick fixes or help on the horizon from free agency and trade and what we see today is largely what we will see next season and maybe the one after that. This organization has to do this the right way which is building from within.

Exception to that would be acquisitions like Russell. If Burke can buy more players like this on the cheap it will help the rebuild.

[Diemenz]

I think people are really missing what assets management is. Letting a UFA move on that has any value is terrible asset management and calgary has done it a few times, I imagine that poor management ended with Burkes hiring.

Lose cammy for free or sign him to a contract and trade him in the offseason or next season for a pick In what is a better draft. That's a no brainer.

If calgary cannot replace cammy with someone as good as or better it's smarter to keep him and wait for a better time to trade him. If no one is interested right now and the asset has an all time low value the smart man keeps an asset till it is worth more or until it can be replaced. Nothing is lost by keeping cammy if a market doesn't exist. Calgary is going to struggle to reach the cap floor next year so signing cammy to a 3 year deal and then moving him and retaining salary next year just works.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Diemenz

I think people are really missing what assets management is. Letting a UFA move on that has any value is terrible asset management and calgary has done it a few times, I imagine that poor management ended with Burkes hiring.

Lose cammy for free or sign him to a contract and trade him in the offseason or next season for a pick In what is a better draft. That's a no brainer.

If calgary cannot replace cammy with someone as good as or better it's smarter to keep him and wait for a better time to trade him. If no one is interested right now and the asset has an all time low value the smart man keeps an asset till it is worth more or until it can be replaced. Nothing is lost by keeping cammy if a market doesn't exist. Calgary is going to struggle to reach the cap floor next year so signing cammy to a 3 year deal and then moving him and retaining salary next year just works.

But if no market exists for Cammy and he doesn't want to re-sign what does Burke do? Let him walk for nothing? Just because a market may not exist for Cammy doesn't mean he will sign here. I believe he would walk for nothing at season's end. Unlikely scenario but it takes the buy in from the player to sign with the team which is not a foregone conclusion.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

But if no market exists for Cammy and he doesn't want to re-sign what does Burke do? Let him walk for nothing? Just because a market may not exist for Cammy doesn't mean he will sign here. I believe he would walk for nothing at season's end. Unlikely scenario but it takes the buy in from the player to sign with the team which is not a foregone conclusion.

This thread is about the flames and cammy in talks about a extension. Yes there is the possibility cammy does not want an extension.

I fail to see what you are trying to say. Are you saying because you feel he is going to walk calgary should not try and resign him? A smart person wil have plan A,B,C and D. The unprepared man will have plan A. Plan A is trade cammy. If it doesn't happen you NEED plan B, C or D.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Exception to that would be acquisitions like Russell. If Burke can buy more players like this on the cheap it will help the rebuild.

Absolutely but that's a crap shoot as for every Russell that turns out better than expected you get the David Jones and Galliardi's that turn out worse than expected.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by fotze

Cammy for Bourque, he's really been heating up.

Was a healthy scratch on Saturday night.

Only 6 goals this year too.

I am not a fan of Feaster, but moving Bourque was one of this best moves.