Sunshine List will expose six-figure salaries of Alberta government employees

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally Posted by Muta

No, really?

$100k is an extremely liveable wage, even in Calgary. Saying it is otherwise is just arrogance. Every area has its own standard of living, but Calgary's is exceptionally high; plus, not all places are relative in income / standard of living to each other. That was the point.

And that's is exactly what I said. Standard of living conditions are relative. That was my point. $100k in calgary is a good wage, but if you are a household of $100k a year, you are just slightly above average. I never said $100k is a struggling wage, so don't know where your drew that ridiculous conclusion from.

[cKy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Well that's just the worst IT security setup ever. Giving the ability to support people to look up salaries should get somebody fired.

How is it a IT security setup problem? The information is public domain. It's no different if I was applying for a job, had interview with manager - got his name - went home and looked up his salary on the PUBLIC DATABASE.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm not sure how necessary this is. I would say start at the director levels and up and focus on specific appointments made by the government.

I think where the publication needs to happen is based around severance packages paid

[Table 5]

Considering how well luxury goods, high-end condos, high-end cars, trendy restaurants, and other moneyd things do in Calgary, it's no surprise that some people can't afford to live on 100k. I think the good times for many (but not all) have skewed everyone's perspective a bit in terms of what's normal.

While it's nice to see people getting rewarded for their efforts, sometimes I think Calgary could use a couple years of the Bust cycle, to shake everyone's priorities back in line a bit.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

And that's is exactly what I said. Standard of living conditions are relative. That was my point. $100k in calgary is a good wage, but if you are a household of $100k a year, you are just slightly above average. I never said $100k is a struggling wage, so don't know where your drew that ridiculous conclusion from.

It wasn't you that said anything of the sort, so there were no ridiculous conclusions drawn, not sure what's that's about.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally Posted by Muta

It wasn't you that said anything of the sort, so there were no ridiculous conclusions drawn, not sure what's that's about.

Well, maybe clarify who you were directing that comment toward. Then there would be no misunderstanding.

[darklord700]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

However, $100k is still a very decent income in Canada, even by Alberta's standards. When darklord700 states that "$100k doesn't buy you much these days", he sounds ridiculously out-of-touch with the reality of the typical Canadian family.

Sorry if I offended anyone. $100K still buys a lot but you are not getting ahead and your life isn't set. That's what I was saying.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

Well, maybe clarify who you were directing that comment toward. Then there would be no misunderstanding.

darklord700, who just respectfully responded above. Why is this such a big deal to you?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by darklord700

Sorry if I offended anyone. $100K still buys a lot but you are not getting ahead and your life isn't set. That's what I was saying.

I see what you're saying, especially if that figure is a total 'dual income' figure. However, if you're referring to an individual income, I see people 'getting ahead' and doing just fine financially making less than $100k.

It's all about choices and priorities. If you're scraping by, at $100K a year, and fearing you aren't being financially set because of your income bracket.... you're doing it wrong.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally Posted by Muta

darklord700, who just respectfully responded above. Why is this such a big deal to you?

It's not. I only read and respond to post that respond to mine. So when you are intentionally vague about who you're responding to, I assume you're responding to me. Would you rather I not respond at all?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

It's not. I only read and respond to post that respond to mine. So when you are intentionally vague about who you're responding to, I assume you're responding to me. Would you rather I not respond at all?

Cool

[To Be Quite Honest]

Next the people need to audit spending.

[darklord700]

Originally Posted by Muta

If you're scraping by, at $100K a year, and fearing you aren't being financially set because of your income bracket.... you're doing it wrong.

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[Northendzone]

i hope that someone is thinking of the children!!!

[V]

Originally Posted by darklord700

In the public sector, $100K is still considered a big deal. I've seen 20 year old kids making or close to making $100K in the O&G for sure.

The lowest level managers at the City of Edmonton make over $100k. The second level managers average about $130k. I don't think $100k is really considered a big deal at all in the public sector.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by darklord700

Once I applied for a $70K job thinking my life will be set if I got that job. I'm grateful that I'm making more than that now but my life is still not set.

This doesn't address the fact that you can still be financially well-off and successful even if you're scraping by with less than $100k.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

And that's is exactly what I said. Standard of living conditions are relative. That was my point. $100k in calgary is a good wage, but if you are a household of $100k a year, you are just slightly above average. I never said $100k is a struggling wage, so don't know where your drew that ridiculous conclusion from.

Your original post said 100k Salary was only slightly above average (rather than household income). Average Salary in alberta is only 56k.

http://www.workopolis.com/content/ad...start-of-2013/

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally Posted by GGG

Your original post said 100k Salary was only slightly above average (rather than household income). Average Salary in alberta is only 56k.

http://www.workopolis.com/content/ad...start-of-2013/

It's true I made no mention of a household income in total, which may account for dual income. But I take it as an individual with a household income of $100k. I understand there are households that have dual income, but I'm only targeting total income of $100k.

Maybe it's the circle of people I know, but most are single income earners once their wives become pregnant and have children.

[CaptainYooh]

I don't agree with all this fake outrage over privacy. Nobody is outraged about business owners knowing what the employees are making; that's normal. People own the Government. They have the right to know. Public work offers significant benefits that are not available to private employment. It also offers substantially less risk. Some loss of privacy in terms of the people knowing public employer's remuneration package is a reasonable compromise.

[Mazrim]

It's not really a big deal...I'm surprised they didn't do it like in BC where every public service worker has their salary publicly available. The only people who go out of their way to look it up usually have an axe to grind, and really, who cares about them. The local papers in BC usually post the manager salaries annually. My dad would get flack occasionally from a couple people but overall it's not as bad as some people make it seem.

If your neighbours are going to treat you differently because they know what you make, they probably aren't the kind of people you want to associate with anyways.