12-16-2013, 01:31 AM
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I just love the comments in this thread.  Makes Milan Lucic sound like Chuck Norris.
Just to remind people here.. Milan Lucic is a great athlete and good hockey fighter; but people are making it sound like he could never lose a street fight. While he is a good hockey fighter and probably has trained 'MMA' he is clearly drunk in this video and there are some pretty tough, healthy over 6'0, 200lbs people in almost every city. I am not saying you guys are wrong and he would get beat up..But at the same time its not un-heard of or impossible for a drunk or even sober Lucic to lose a fight on or off skates. Not to mention there are tons of professional / experienced fighters / roid monkeys walking about in places like Vancouver and Boston who wouldnt be afraid to fight Lucic either out of foolishness or they actually have the ability to defend themselves.
PS. Go Bruins this season! Want to see Iggy get his cup more on that team than I did on the Pens for some reason..
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12-16-2013, 07:37 AM
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#42
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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For sure looks like some dbag picked a fight with him as he was leaving. Punched him multiple times.
We heard how Lucic's family in Van took a lot of heat during the playoffs. This is just an extension of it.
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12-16-2013, 07:55 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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somewhere in Vancovuer today a guy is saying to his co-workers" so i was out at the club this weekend and decided to challenge milan lucic to a fight".......he then forgets to super size an order and then has to deal with the wrath of an annoyed customer......
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12-16-2013, 07:58 AM
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Over 40 posts and not one portrait view reference, I am disappoint.
I would side with Lucic here, but in today's game it seems odd to me to see these athletes wasted and out this late during the season. I must be getting older but the full recovery time for me can be as much as two days if I have a real big one anymore.
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12-16-2013, 08:07 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Crazy how quickly this guy went from a Vancouver hero to a hated status.
Born and raised in Vancouver, starred on the Giants, MVP of their only Memorial Cup to getting targetted in nightclub fights and his local church being vandalized. Nice one Van.
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12-16-2013, 08:32 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: PEI
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Originally Posted by T@T
Not realy, In my day I think I was somewhere around 13 for 15 on skates and only about 60% in street fights.
Scraping in a bar or whatever is a different game then standing up going toe to toe. you can't "kick" the $$%# out of someone on the ice.
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Pu**ies are more apt to fight on the ice, likely why you have higher percentage.
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12-16-2013, 08:42 AM
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
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Originally Posted by AcGold
most guys in the NHL that fight regularly train with pro boxing/mma coaches. Lucic would demolish almost anyone not trained at a pro level, probably could fight 3 or 4 people at once just fine as he trains to take a punch. The ability to not be scared of getting hit and having the muscle memory to know how to react in a fight makes it damn near impossible to stop someone that's trained properly.
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I don't know what percentage of hockey fighters train in MMA, but I do know that of any gym that I have worked out at, I have yet to see an active NHLer. Not to say that some do not train, but what is the point? The weight training side of MMA, yes absolutely many NHLers are active in, but the majority of this training can take place outside of the typical MMA gym. Rolling with guys on the ground and actively sparring is probably limited. But what do I know. If they want to be a better hockey fighter, I would think boxing is the way to train, not MMA.
Lucic on the street would be bad news because anyone dumb enough to pick that fight probably has other people dumb enough to do stupid things. A sucker punch or weapon could easily end Lucic's career. Or he could be facing someone that can complete a takedown, now Lucic is getting his shoulder torn up.
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12-16-2013, 09:02 AM
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#48
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First Line Centre
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I find it funny too that some guys in here think a pro hockey player is the shizznit even off the ice.
I have seen a few pros get in scraps at the clubs I bounced at in TO in the 80's. I have seen guys like Corson and Macsorely lose and guys like Kordic win. They win, they lose just like everybody else. Heck, Craig Adams couldn't win a fight in our ball hockey league.
Most of the times the scrap is not the fault of the player it is usually the posse around them that starts it cause they think they own the club and the local tough guys decide to correct that perception.
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12-16-2013, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Why hasn't this juice monkey Vancouver slime scum bag been charged yet? Uttering death threats is on tape.
Does Vancouver not charge people for crimes caught on tape?
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They would need to charge everybody in Vancouver. Because apparently, everybody is a gangster out there and has the means to hurt/kill someone. This is why I hate going to Vancouver! Beautiful city but I can't stand the people who live there.
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12-16-2013, 09:36 AM
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My Dad could beat up Milan Lucic's Dad.
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12-16-2013, 09:47 AM
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#51
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Originally Posted by SeeBass
I find it funny too that some guys in here think a pro hockey player is the shizznit even off the ice.
I have seen a few pros get in scraps at the clubs I bounced at in TO in the 80's. I have seen guys like Corson and Macsorely lose and guys like Kordic win. They win, they lose just like everybody else. Heck, Craig Adams couldn't win a fight in our ball hockey league.
Most of the times the scrap is not the fault of the player it is usually the posse around them that starts it cause they think they own the club and the local tough guys decide to correct that perception.
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Kordic tried to fight an acquaintance of mine back in the day. Canadian Heavyweight champ Ken Lacusta intervened and asked Kordic to leave the kids alone and step outside with a man. Even nutjob Kordic had a clue and declined. Heavyweight boxers they are not.
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12-16-2013, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
I don't know what percentage of hockey fighters train in MMA, but I do know that of any gym that I have worked out at, I have yet to see an active NHLer. Not to say that some do not train, but what is the point? The weight training side of MMA, yes absolutely many NHLers are active in, but the majority of this training can take place outside of the typical MMA gym. Rolling with guys on the ground and actively sparring is probably limited. But what do I know. If they want to be a better hockey fighter, I would think boxing is the way to train, not MMA.
Lucic on the street would be bad news because anyone dumb enough to pick that fight probably has other people dumb enough to do stupid things. A sucker punch or weapon could easily end Lucic's career. Or he could be facing someone that can complete a takedown, now Lucic is getting his shoulder torn up.
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To add to that there is a very high rate of training injuries in boxing/MMA. It's something that all amateur/professional fighters are aware of, and just accept as part of the business. I would think that would be a heavy deterrent for guys whose living depends on their ability to remain healthy and productive. If a fighter suffers a training injury it's not as big a deal because you're not fighting every other night. You might have to drop out of one fight and schedule one at a later date. Hockey players don't really have that option. Even during the off-season an injury can really set back their training.
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12-16-2013, 09:54 AM
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There's not only the fact that Lucic is a professional athlete, but he was also a boxer as a teenager. He can legitimately fight. Not saying that he would win any fight, but he's not just a hockey player.
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12-16-2013, 10:26 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Lucic says he is done with Vancouver:
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 21m
Milan Lucic: "Other than being at Rogers Arena, you'll never see me in downtown Vancouver again. I'm done trying to defend city I'm from"
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 19m
Milan Lucic referring to an "unprovoked attack" when he was out in downtown Vancouver following Saturday nights game vs Canucks #BruinsTalk
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 7m
Milan Lucic said he was out "blowing off steam" at end of long 4-game road trip and he was struck multiple times by "an unprovoked attacker"
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 2m
Lucic referenced his Serbian church defaced by graffiti, grndparents getting pelted w/food during SCF and attack as last straw for Vancouver
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12-16-2013, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Lucic says he is done with Vancouver:
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 21m
Milan Lucic: "Other than being at Rogers Arena, you'll never see me in downtown Vancouver again. I'm done trying to defend city I'm from"
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 19m
Milan Lucic referring to an "unprovoked attack" when he was out in downtown Vancouver following Saturday nights game vs Canucks #BruinsTalk
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 7m
Milan Lucic said he was out "blowing off steam" at end of long 4-game road trip and he was struck multiple times by "an unprovoked attacker"
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 2m
Lucic referenced his Serbian church defaced by graffiti, grndparents getting pelted w/food during SCF and attack as last straw for Vancouver
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to be fair, Haggerty named his dog after Lucic so we don't know 100% which one he is getting the quotes from....
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12-16-2013, 11:08 AM
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#56
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Originally Posted by Interlude
They would need to charge everybody in Vancouver. Because apparently, everybody is a gangster out there and has the means to hurt/kill someone. This is why I hate going to Vancouver! Beautiful city but I can't stand the people who live there.
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downtown on the weekend at night is just full of a bunch of idiots
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12-16-2013, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
downtown on the weekend at night is just full of a bunch of idiots
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And as much as I don't enjoy Vancouver for my own reasons, so it's every cities downtown
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12-16-2013, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
And as much as I don't enjoy Vancouver for my own reasons, so it's every cities downtown
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I was just in Vancouver and actually pretty surprised by the d-bag and tension level. I go out all the time in Calgary, and have been out in a LOT of other cities, in both the US and Canada. While that is always there to a certain extent, in Vancouver it seemed really prevalent.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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12-16-2013, 11:20 AM
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haha, vancouver being crapped on even further. All in all, another great story.
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12-16-2013, 11:22 AM
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To be fair though, both of those cities fanbases deserve each other.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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