Glencross new whipping boy

[lifetimefan]

Originally Posted by Arkamedius

Quotes like this make me snicker... A player who becomes hot usually doesn't get traded, so what you want is for Glenny to get on a hot streak at which point people (CP Forums) stops compiling about him because he's playing well and the problem is forgot... Until the next episodic synopsis where the plot thickens with more of the same.
Don't get me wrong I complain about players I think need to improve their work ethic and ya it helps me feel better to vent about their bad games when we loose.

You misunderstand. Hot or not, I want him traded. The CP consensus has nothing to do with it.
His trade value would be far greater if he were on a streak.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

He's not playing well but players go through bad stretches - the reaction is well - an over-reaction.
He'll be just fine in the long-run.

This isn't a bad stretch though, just a longer than usual bad stretch. He always disappears for games at a time but usually gets his act together pretty fast but will have these multiple 2-3 game bad stretches in the season.

This time it has gone on for 7 games and he isn't even showing much effort out there which is frustrating.

[Heavy Jack]

More like Poutface

[Badgers Nose]

Coaches better help him through this stuff. Flames are going nowhere if he isn't one of their best players every night.

[Mr.Coffee]

there's a difference between rough luck and trying and then just not really trying, which is the case in Glencross. I don't agree that people are overreacting because they know that if he was trying he would be a key player.

The NTC to me just means that if you can't trade him you healthy scratch him a game or two to send the message that there are a lot of young guys waiting in the wings to take a spot on the ice if all it means is to try.

If I was Hartley I'd sit him down in private, tell him he needs to work harder and if he doesn't then healthy scratch him a game and see what happens.

I despise how when vets on this team don't try they get free rides from everybody from management to fans to coaches to teammates. No, it's just laziness. End of story. Why doesn't Blair Jones get the same treatment? Because he's not as good? I bet you any money he is just as good as Glencross is right now.

[Wolfman]

Hahahaha PoutFace!! That's a good name for him.

[Zulu29]

I guess the last few seasons my attention was on others most of the time. That's the only explanation I can come up with for his poor play standing out to me so much. Don't get me wrong, he's always been a streaky kind of player but this year I've noticed he's just plain aweful some games and has poor hockey sense. Maybe he thinks he needs to be "the guy" this year but man he forces a lot of plays that he has no business doing.

[868904]

And to think many posters wanted him to be captain of this team.

[Erick Estrada]

Glencross hasn't been very good but this is what happens when a team has to depend on 2nd line players for 1st line production. Some fans just aren't happy unless they have players to take their frustration on.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

He's not playing well but players go through bad stretches - the reaction is well - an over-reaction.
He'll be just fine in the long-run.

Flames fans? Overreact?

Surely you jest.

[Oil Stain]

Send him back to Edmonton.

[krynski]

he's in a new role. He's not doing terrible. Do we expect better from him than previous seasons? I think it's irrational to say so. For me, as long as he gets 20-25 goals and 20-25 assists without being a liability, he's good to go. So far, he's been good to go for me and he's definitely on pace for what I would like.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Send him back to Edmonton.

At this point he'd fight right in with Edmonton. Plays lazy, no emotion, totally lacking the buzzsaw forecheking game that made him an NHL player.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Glencross will get it together. He may need a kick in the butt, but he'll get his game in shape an help this team win.

[OzSome]

Too early in the season to pile on Glencross. He is a streaky player and I really think when he picks up his play, he'll be effective. It must be a confidence thing right now. I think we here in CP are just noticing his bad plays and not his good plays. Some might have a valid point in how bad he's been playing right now but I am not giving up on the guy yet.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by krynski

he's in a new role. He's not doing terrible. Do we expect better from him than previous seasons? I think it's irrational to say so. For me, as long as he gets 20-25 goals and 20-25 assists without being a liability, he's good to go. So far, he's been good to go for me and he's definitely on pace for what I would like.

Problem is, he has been a liability. He's had some brutal turnovers and the guy is playing like he couldn't care less.

Glencross is successful when he makes smart, simple plays and drives hard to the net. He doesn't have the skill or the hands to be making these cute, fancy drop passes. That's not his game.

He is expected to be a leader on the team and a role-model for the younger guys. I don't care what it takes to get him going, he needs to be held accountable just like every other guy on the team. The pathetic, half hearted efforts need to end. Ship him out or staple his ass to the bench.

[browna]

He's gotten a bit over his mood and play up and down swings since Bourque left and has thus been given more responsibility.

Like before, he will pick it back up, get some goals, and with those goals and stats, suddenly look more engaged and "seem" to be that leader that the Flames want him to be, for another stretch of games.

However, the fact that he's still prone to looking as invisible and un-interested in prolonged stretches as demonstrated by some not-as-smart plays and a seemingly sour attitude, is concerning. The question then is are those swings in play and swings in mood something you want from an "A" on what is now a young learning team, longer term?

[flamesfever]

If it's a confidence issue, which it looks like, then he'll probably work through it with time. He's one of the few players capable of being able to change the outcome of a game. If we undervalue what we have, by trading away players like this, I believe we'll stifle our ability to grow as a team.

[Badgers Nose]

He is simply not a blind pass fancy play at the blue line kind of player. When he plays good honest old-fashioned hockey he is very effective. When he thinks he's Wayne Gretzky he fails miserably. It's been the same pattern since he got here only that lately he hasn't had his honest moments of production like he has in the past.

[Mango]

There were definitely some interesting comments this morning from Rhett Warrener about Glencross' current attitude. He mentioned he thinks that Glencross is stung from not being selected captain and is trying to get over it.

I like his cap hit. I don't like his attitude. I like when he's playing how he should be playing, but with all that said, I would have no problem giving his "A" to someone else. I doubt it happens, so hopefully his attitude gets adjusted soon.