10-17-2013, 06:01 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Phil Russell
Glass houses folks. My guess is that Calgary is a pretty common "will not be traded to" location as well.
If you are a kid from the Northeastern or Midwest US, hell, if you are a kid from MTL or TO or Moscow or Prague who is good enough to command a no trade clause, far away western cities, and smaller markets in general, are terra incognita. Unknown and undesirable.
The reasons players like Miller chose not to play in EDM mostly apply to CGY as well.
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Except it's more about timing for Calgary. They're not likely to be successful for the next couple years, whereas Edmonton is just a complete hole and it would still be a problem even if they weren't the joke of the league.
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10-17-2013, 06:02 PM
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#42
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Perth Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
The former USA Silver medal Goalie Miller has apparently 8 teams he won't accept a trade to. Just a guess all 7 Canadian teams are on there.
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What would be silly but completely possible.
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10-17-2013, 06:28 PM
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#43
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Wow. This is shocking news.
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10-17-2013, 06:29 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Edmonton is the only NHL city that I wouldn't want to live in (in fact, I have turned down jobs in Edmonton). I would live in Winnipeg only because I used to live in the area and know a lot of people there. Buffalo I could take or leave.
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10-17-2013, 06:33 PM
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#45
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
The former USA Silver medal Goalie Miller has apparently 8 teams he won't accept a trade to. Just a guess all 7 Canadian teams are on there.
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And he probably has Edmonton on their twice...
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10-17-2013, 06:38 PM
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#46
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First Line Centre
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10-17-2013, 06:39 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Russell
Glass houses folks. My guess is that Calgary is a pretty common "will not be traded to" location as well.
If you are a kid from the Northeastern or Midwest US, hell, if you are a kid from MTL or TO or Moscow or Prague who is good enough to command a no trade clause, far away western cities, and smaller markets in general, are terra incognita. Unknown and undesirable.
The reasons players like Miller chose not to play in EDM mostly apply to CGY as well.
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Not really.
No Flames GM (who's now the team president) asked a player to give back money in order to get traded.
No Flames GM (who's now the president) enticed a star defenseman to join thier team with the promise of other star players getting acquired...to get no-one else, asking said star player to ask to be traded within 3 months.
That sort of underhanded, behind the scenes two faced-ness resonates largely within the PA, and the Heatley, Nylander and countless others (who you'll never know, invoking NMC's) demonstrates that.
As much as Feaster had done last year to start to turn the Flames off ice reputation among the PA in the same direction, it pales in comparison to a decade of Lowe sinking the Oilers reputation, which continually restricts their options to improve via free agency and trades, and their left with high draft picks and no solid NHL players to required to supplement the lineup properly.
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10-17-2013, 06:55 PM
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#48
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan
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Was that built by Kevin Lowe?
Even their glass houses SUCK!
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10-17-2013, 06:59 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
Glass houses folks. My guess is that Calgary is a pretty common "will not be traded to" location as well.
If you are a kid from the Northeastern or Midwest US, hell, if you are a kid from MTL or TO or Moscow or Prague who is good enough to command a no trade clause, far away western cities, and smaller markets in general, are terra incognita. Unknown and undesirable.
The reasons players like Miller chose not to play in EDM mostly apply to CGY as well.
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Honestly I would much rather live in Calgary then the Midwest and 98% of the USA. I'd probably say Edmonton over 80% of them. I have many non-canadian friends that would agree with that too.
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10-17-2013, 07:11 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Geneseo, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Not really.
No Flames GM (who's now the team president) asked a player to give back money in order to get traded.
No Flames GM (who's now the president) enticed a star defenseman to join thier team with the promise of other star players getting acquired...to get no-one else, asking said star player to ask to be traded within 3 months.
That sort of underhanded, behind the scenes two faced-ness resonates largely within the PA, and the Heatley, Nylander and countless others (who you'll never know, invoking NMC's) demonstrates that.
As much as Feaster had done last year to start to turn the Flames off ice reputation among the PA in the same direction, it pales in comparison to a decade of Lowe sinking the Oilers reputation, which continually restricts their options to improve via free agency and trades, and their left with high draft picks and no solid NHL players to required to supplement the lineup properly.
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Agreed. The Oilers hockey team and management stink.
I was only talking about the cities and the fact that for most Americans or non-westerners, places like Calgary and Edmonton are interchangeable, end-of-the-earth, somewhere-out-there hick towns. As a Calgarian living in NY, I know this well.
Anyways, it doesn't really matter and in the spirit of the thread: ha ha stupid Oilers.
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10-17-2013, 07:12 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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The perception of Edmonton has more to do with the organization than anything else. People assume it's because the city literally smells like poop, but while that's a factor, I think more emphasis is put on the Oiler's unmatched ability to be absolutely terrible all the time.
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10-17-2013, 07:24 PM
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#52
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trackercowe
The next poster who uses the saying "glass houses folks" in this thread should be banned from the forum for a month.
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I concur!
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10-17-2013, 07:32 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Behind Nikkor Glass
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No love for the Piano Man?
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10-17-2013, 07:41 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulator75
No love for the Piano Man?
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You had to be a big shot, didn't you?
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10-17-2013, 08:59 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Not really.
No Flames GM (who's now the team president) asked a player to give back money in order to get traded.
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I haven't heard that one before - cliff notes?
I assume your next paragraph is Mr. Pronger?
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10-17-2013, 09:01 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
I haven't heard that one before - cliff notes?
I assume your next paragraph is Mr. Pronger?
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Mike Comrie.
Got a bonus, asked to be traded, Lowe demanded the money back.
Everyone had a good laugh, Comrie got what he wanted, Lowe is an idiot.
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10-17-2013, 09:04 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
I haven't heard that one before - cliff notes?
I assume your next paragraph is Mr. Pronger?
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Lowe had a trade with the Ducks. Comrie for Corey Fricken Perry AND a 1st round draft pick. But he wanted Comrie to give the Oilers $2.5M back from the bonus money he earned on his ELC. So Lowe traded him to the Flyers instead.
This is such an awesome sequence of events that we couldn't make up a better story
Ha ha. Stupid Oilers
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10-17-2013, 09:11 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Ha ha. Stupid Oilers indeed.
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10-17-2013, 09:15 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
Lowe had a trade with the Ducks. Comrie for Corey Fricken Perry AND a 1st round draft pick. But he wanted Comrie to give the Oilers $2.5M back from the bonus money he earned on his ELC. So Lowe traded him to the Flyers instead.
This is such an awesome sequence of events that we couldn't make up a better story
Ha ha. Stupid Oilers
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I had completely forgotten about Perry being part of it.
Wouldn't Perry look good on the Oilers right now...
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10-17-2013, 09:30 PM
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HotHotHeat
The perception of Edmonton has more to do with the organization than anything else. People assume it's because the city literally smells like poop, but while that's a factor, I think more emphasis is put on the Oiler's unmatched ability to be absolutely terrible all the time.
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This, any player looks at the owner making an a$ out of himself a completely incompetent management team lead by the one of the worst hockey executives in NHL history. Combine that with a coach that already seems over his head. A blue line that couldn't defend against a bunch of fat chicks from jersey and you get put on the no fracking way you can trade me there list quick fast and in a hurry.
The team could be the hot hooker and blow town Oilers and nobody would want to play there.
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