[News] 2013-14 Calgary Flames Opening Day Roster

[Brad Marsh]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I think everybody knows that Colborne had to be on the team because he would not clear waivers. That said by picking him up that meant Horak had to go down or Monahan would not get 9 games.

So basically i don't get how you don't see that trading for Colborne meant one center was going down whether they deserved it or not?

I suspect people understand that as well. But so what? The organization obviously believes Colborne brings something that it valued and that Horak didn't have. Might be size, might be a higher ceiling, might be both.

The reality is they had the opportunity to acquire Colborne for a very low acquisition cost, and they pulled the trigger. I think we can all agree that Colborne wouldn't clear waivers, so that means that either Street or Horak are starting the year with the Heat.

I thought both players (Horak and Street) had a strong and I have no problem with Street getting the spot on the opening day roster.

My prediction: Monahan is returned to major junior after 9 games and Horak spends the rest of the season with the Flames.

[868904]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Big surprise for me is that Street made the team over Horak.

I think as a 13th forward, it's better to have Street sitting in the press box than Horak.

Horak will hate it, but he's going to get lots of playing time in Abbotsford.

At this stage in their careers, Street is the perfect 13th forward.

[djsFlames]

Ben Street?

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but at first glance, I'd prefer that name to be Roman Horak.

[FlamesAddiction]

The fact Street was put on waivers isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. I expect that they are going to be sending him down within the month /10 game window (barring injuries). He can't be in the long term plans.

[Ozy_Flame]

People need to get past their emotional attachment to Roman Horak. If Colborne is the better fit for the team, then for god sakes put him there. Horak will likely be one of the first call-ups once the team starts going down with injuries.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Would Horak be on the roster today if they didn't acquire Colborne? Some are thinking yes, I don't know if I disagree.

That said, Horak will be up soon enough in my opinion.

so don't acquire anyone because we have Roman Horak on the roster

sometimes I wonder, the Flames at this point don't owe anything to anyone

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

People need to get past their emotional attachment to Roman Horak. If Colborne is the better fit for the team, then for god sakes put him there. Horak will likely be one of the first call-ups once the team starts going down with injuries.

It's not about Horak.

It's about bringing in an unknown commodity and automatically giving him a space, all the while telling the players at camp that they need to compete against each other.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

It's not about Horak.

It's about bringing in an unknown commodity and automatically giving him a space, all the while telling the players at camp that they need to compete against each other.

thats pro sports

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

It's not about Horak.

It's about bringing in an unknown commodity and automatically giving him a space, all the while telling the players at camp that they need to compete against each other.

This is your insight only on this matter. Maybe, according to the hockey professionals and coaches felt that since Horak isn't anything too special that he can be replaced with Colborne without them competing against each other, goes to show that Colborne indeed brings an element this team is lacking! Size and strength down the middle.

If he doesn't do something with this opportunity that Burke is giving him, he will be that 13th forward sitting in the press box fairly soon.

We haven't seen the last of Horak, most likely first call up.

Horak is in a good spot. His contract allows him to be the easy call up this season and likely the first one. He can play loads in Abby and them get 3rd line mins for the flames if he performs.

He better get close to 1ppg though.

[old-fart]

So, if the Flames some how manged to get some kid named Crosby we should try and send him down (he'd have to clear waivers) because he didn't compete directly at camp with Horak?

I like Horak and I want him to succeed here, but I trust that someone in organization has watched the new guy play and knows what we are getting with him. Plus, it's not like Horak has been banished to purgatory for the year. If something happens or new guy is not performing, Horak can be recalled with no issue.

It might suck for Horak, but is the life of a tweener NHL'r that can still move up and down without passing through waivers. With 50ish more games NHL experience, he won't be that guy anymore and the Flames will need to make tougher decisions where he is concerned.

[BlackWallStreet]

Did jay or brian say anything about horak in their press conference?

[TurnedTheCorner]

Street is the surprise of the roster IMO. Jackman is the disappointment of the roster IMO.

[EYE_Overstand]

Horak needs to show much more offensive output. Defensively he is ahead of many his age ... Minus Backlund ...

He is a great trading asset if he could just put up 10 NHL goals. We need son RWs

[getbak]

If my math is correct, for the Flames' starting 23 man roster (which does not include Cammalleri or Breen):

Average height: 72.8 inches or just under 6'1"
Average weight: 200.3 pounds
Average age: 27.6 years old as of October 1, 2013


Derek Smith is the median age (half the roster is younger, half is older), with a birthday of October 13, 1984. Joey MacDonald is the oldest player (Feb 7, 1980) and Sean Monahan is the youngest (Oct 12, 1994). This is the first season since the 1989-90 season without a player born in the 1970s on the roster (assuming they don't go out and acquire anyone later).

Smith, Glencross, and MacDonald are all the median weight of 197 pounds. Kris Russel (173 lbs) is the lightest player and Brian McGrattan (235 lbs) is the heaviest.

The median height is 6'1". There are six players that height. The tallest and shortest players still in Calgary are the two on the IR, Cammalleri (5'9") and Breen (6'7"). On the active roster, Russell and Hudler are the shortest (5'10") and Colborne is the tallest (6'5").

[Stupid]

Originally Posted by getbak

If my math is correct, for the Flames' starting 23 man roster (which does not include Cammalleri or Breen):

Average height: 72.8 inches or just under 6'1"
Average weight: 200.3 pounds
Average age: 27.6 years old as of October 1, 2013


Derek Smith is the median age (half the roster is younger, half is older), with a birthday of October 13, 1984. Joey MacDonald is the oldest player (Feb 7, 1980) and Sean Monahan is the youngest (Oct 12, 1994). This is the first season since the 1989-90 season without a player born in the 1970s on the roster (assuming they don't go out and acquire anyone later).

Smith, Glencross, and MacDonald are all the median weight of 197 pounds. Kris Russel (173 lbs) is the lightest player and Brian McGrattan (235 lbs) is the heaviest.

The median height is 6'1". There are six players that height. The tallest and shortest players still in Calgary are the two on the IR, Cammalleri (5'9") and Breen (6'7"). On the active roster, Russell and Hudler are the shortest (5'10") and Colborne is the tallest (6'5").

Thanks for those facts!
Do you happen to have last year's stats to compare?

[Table 5]

Not as many young guys on the team as I would like, but I realize that you can't just get rid of all your vets in one swoop (or all your vets period, as they do serve a purpose). If we have the same amount of older guys on this team at this stage next year though, it would be a little disappointing....Im hoping for the second stage of the Stalinesque purging at the trade deadline.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by getbak

If my math is correct, for the Flames' starting 23 man roster (which does not include Cammalleri or Breen):

Average height: 72.8 inches or just under 6'1"
Average weight: 200.3 pounds
Average age: 27.6 years old as of October 1, 2013


Derek Smith is the median age (half the roster is younger, half is older), with a birthday of October 13, 1984. Joey MacDonald is the oldest player (Feb 7, 1980) and Sean Monahan is the youngest (Oct 12, 1994).

Smith, Glencross, and MacDonald are all the median weight of 197 pounds. Kris Russel (173 lbs) is the lightest player and Brian McGrattan (235 lbs) is the heaviest.

The median height is 6'1". There are six players that height. The tallest and shortest players still in Calgary are the two on the IR, Cammalleri (5'9") and Breen (6'7"). On the active roster, Russell and Hudler are the shortest (5'10") and Colborne is the tallest (6'5").

The median height is 6'1, wow. Tall team. I really hope that Breen gets well soon. Good roster, thought Street had a great camp, and Horak sitting in the press box makes no sense. Will be interesting to see if Street dresses, and if he does, how much time they give him.

[Itse]

Let me put it this way:

I don't think the management did anything wrong as such in getting Colborne and giving him a spot over Horak. (As long as Colborne turns out to be worth anything that is.)

But that doesn't mean I have to like everything about it.

At some point you also have to stick with the guys you have and let them develop, instead of bouncing them around to try out everybody and the kitchen sink. We're not at that point yet though, but I do hope that a year from now the situation will be a little more stabilized.

That would actually be my expectation for this season; that a year from now the teams future will look clearer than it looks now. (I realize there's always quite a bit of turnover, but I think it's fair to say these are more turbulent times than normal.)

[Hammertime]

i'm just as excited about the upcoming season as the next guy.. but we're gonna be bad

[InBurkeWeTrust]

I bought my Home Opener tickets and that's pretty much the only game I am willingly paying for. Unless I get free or ridiculously cheap tickets I doubt I am going to any others. The first game is always the best game, especially when I know we are going to lose a ton of games this year.