Was there a period where the Oilers had Semenko, McClelland and McSorely all at once?
I remember there was a period where they had us outgunned.
Bob Johnson said that before you could attempt to play with the Oilers, you had to match their toughness. Joel Otto, Nick Fitou, Tim Hunter, Jim Peplinski, Jon Tonelli, Neil Sheehy, Jamie McCoun and others did the task.
Williams was effective at what he did and very competitive. I'm not putting him down but he was more of an agitator than a good fighter. To me a goon has to be a top fighter.
We will have to agree to disagree. Williams has the most PIM of all time and second in career fights. And Williams wasn't a hugger either. A lot of his fights were old school toe to toe fights. If being a "goon" is a good thing, Tiger Williams is certainly a good one.
92-93 Jets had Domi, Kris King, Tkachuck (who was very big & tough and loved to rumble in his first years), Dave Manson and "Iggy" Ulanov...oh yeah...they could all play too!
There were many teams laced with Goons or overall team toughness. But these 2 teams took that to a whole new level that has not been and won't be equaled. What they did to intimidate teams was borderline insane and today would be a revolving door of severe suspensions.
Both of their styles was based on pure intimidation mixed with skill.
The Flyers Broad Street Bullies
The Big Bad Bruins
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Bruins were pretty tough in the day with Jonathan and O'reilly. Still remember that crazy game they had with the North Stars that set penalty minute records.
North Stars had some pretty tough guys too later on with Shane Churla and Basil Mcrae on the same line. They even had Dave Hanson(One of the Hanson Brothers in Slapshot) too who was really tough in real life.
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One year, Mike Peluso was on the opposite wing with Sandy McCarthy. Steve Begin centered them for 10 games before getting sent back down to Quebec League.
Stu Grimson didn't play very long for the Flames. As a Blue, he was one of the most feared heavyweights. Plus, they had Kelly Chase.
Bruins were pretty tough in the day with Jonathan and O'reilly. Still remember that crazy game they had with the North Stars that set penalty minute records.
North Stars had some pretty tough guys too later on with Shane Churla and Basil Mcrae on the same line. They even had Dave Hanson(One of the Hanson Brothers in Slapshot) too who was really tough in real life.
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Bruins were pretty tough in the day with Jonathan and O'reilly. Still remember that crazy game they had with the North Stars that set penalty minute records.
North Stars had some pretty tough guys too later on with Shane Churla and Basil Mcrae on the same line. They even had Dave Hanson(One of the Hanson Brothers in Slapshot) too who was really tough in real life.
When Bobby Clark two hand full baseball swing vs the Russians and broke the guys leg when they played an exhibition vs the Flyers it showed how no team equaled their goonery. The Russians refused to continue the game when Impe ran one of them in the head after a number of hard hits.
Personally little 5.8 Stan Bulldog Jonathan for the Bruins was the toughest pound for pound enforcer I have ever seen.
He beat the blood and snot out of everyone he faced and if a guy got a jump on him and he lost the fight he make sure during that same game he would find them a beat the crap out of them without mercy.
Not to mention he was a decent skater and had a few decent seasons as the resident fighter.
Just because he was small it is not like today where small guys generally do not fight the big enforcers.
Jonathan took on all sizes.
5.8 175 meets 6.2 205
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1970s Flyers. Not even close.
Moose Dupont flippin' the bird in the old Forum. Classic.
as for Jonathan and Dupont and Moose was a pretty tough customer. But Jonathan wasn't just a fighter he was a boxer.
5.8 175 vs 6.1 200
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