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Old 02-04-2014, 04:18 PM   #41
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Isn't ING Scotiabank now?
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:08 PM   #42
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I just got a Prime minus 0.4 (2.6%) for 5 years. Go with a mortgage broker, forget the big banks!!!
I got this same rate at Scotiabank back in December aka "big bank"
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:27 PM   #43
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Dammit. I just re-upped in October for Prime -0.5% for 5 years.
I got exactly that at the same time.
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:54 PM   #44
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Where are you guys getting 5 year fixed at 2.6%???!
I think a lot of people are confusing 5 year variables and 5 year fixed rates. Very different products.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:07 PM   #45
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Don't be afraid to negotiate with your bank and research the lowest rates online. See what other lenders are offering and mention it to your bank. A good starting point is ratesupermarket.ca. We got a really good deal on our mortgage mainly thru effective negotiating. It helps if you already are a customer there, you've bought their products or pay fees for other things. I wouldn't even bother looking at the rates the banks post on their website as they are inflated.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:08 PM   #46
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Who is Flamesrule's lender!!!
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:26 AM   #47
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Where are you guys getting 5 year fixed at 2.6%???!
I think a lot of people are confusing 5 year variables and 5 year fixed rates. Very different products.
i got prime -0.4 fixed for 5 years. This is the first fixed i have ever had. I have always done variable. The variable wasn't that much better this time so i took the security.

ING (apparently Scotiabank now) was lender
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:19 AM   #48
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i got prime -0.4 fixed for 5 years. This is the first fixed i have ever had. I have always done variable. The variable wasn't that much better this time so i took the security.

ING (apparently Scotiabank now) was lender
If you got a fixed rate, why are you quoting P-0.40% instead of 2.60% then?
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:24 AM   #49
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The rates in June last year and the rates now are pretty different. I'm just crossing my fingers that rates are still around the 3% range in December this year, when I'll be able to negotiate my next 5 year mortgage.
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If you got a fixed rate, why are you quoting P-0.40% instead of 2.60% then?
sorry to offend your senses!!! it is a fixed rate at 2.6%. Is that better for you?
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:38 AM   #52
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sorry to offend your senses!!! it is a fixed rate at 2.6%. Is that better for you?
This is too good to be true, how do we get this rate!!
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:42 AM   #53
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sorry to offend your senses!!! it is a fixed rate at 2.6%. Is that better for you?
I don't think he's offended; he's just correctly telling you that fixed rates aren't based off prime. If you're lender gave you anything that was prime - "whatever" you did not get a fixed rate.

Maybe you got a 5 year closed variable, not a 5 year fixed?
You would have fixed payments (which many people don't know if the case in a variable), but the rate is not fixed.

Not for me to tell you what you have, but being based off prime, and being 2.6% in last summer, tell me it must not be a fixed.
No one was offering 5 yr fixed at that range last summer.

Fixed vs Variable
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:33 PM   #54
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I think the rate he got is indeed prime - 0.4% variable rate on a closed term.
No chance thats a fixed rate
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:01 PM   #55
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I will go just shy of guaranteeing that it is a variable rate @ 2.6% (P -0.4). The lowest rate I have seen on a 5 year fixed in the last 2 years was a 2.74%, which was about 6-8 months ago. Now if you got financing around that time, there is a chance that your bank rep/broker bought down the rate to 2.6%, but I don't know anyone that would need to buy down a rate from 2.74%, as that is incredibly low as-is, and that would mean little to no commission for the broker.

In regards to current rates these days - I'm a Mortgage Professional with SmartCap (brokerage being invis) and I can currently lock clients into a 3.09% 5 year-fixed for 90 days, and I can do a 120 rate hold at P - 0.5, which would currently leave you at 2.50%. Feel free to send me a message if anyone has any questions/inquiries.

I'm not sure how Flamesrules got a P - 0.70... I've never seen that, and I have access to over 50 different lenders. Here's the link to my thread: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...=125184&page=2

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I will go just shy of guaranteeing that it is a variable rate @ 2.6% (P -0.4). The lowest rate I have seen on a 5 year fixed in the last 2 years was a 2.74%, which was about 6-8 months ago. Now if you got financing around that time, there is a chance that your bank rep/broker bought down the rate to 2.6%, but I don't know anyone that would need to buy down a rate from 2.74%, as that is incredibly low as-is, and that would mean little to no commission for the broker.

In regards to current rates these days - I'm a Mortgage Professional with SmartCap (brokerage being invis) and I can currently lock clients into a 3.09% 5 year-fixed for 90 days, and I can do a 120 rate hold at P - 0.5, which would currently leave you at 2.50%. Feel free to send me a message if anyone has any questions/inquiries.

I'm not sure how Flamesrules got a P - 0.70... I've never seen that, and I have access to over 50 different lenders. Here's the link to my thread: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...=125184&page=2

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my previous mortgage was prime - 0.8% through ING (true north mortgage as broker) variable. I closed that in June 2008 for 5 years. i renewed with ING in June 2013 closed rate of 2.6% for five years (definitely not a variable). This is the first time i have ever locked in a rate in a decade. I have always gone variable before last June
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In that case, you sir got the best 5 year fixed rate ever offered to any Canadian person in history!!
Congratulations!!!
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We got our 3 year fixed at 2.60% - probably could've held out for a better rate but its so low we couldn't resist
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