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Originally Posted by kyuss275
I highly doubt that teams will give up anything of significance in order to drop a player with a big cap hit. Most teams will shed someway or another a bottom 6 "meh" player and just ride out the season close to the cap. The cap will take a huge jump up next year, so they really only need to be worried about this year.
As for the Liles trade, what do you think Toronto would give up? I doubt much and since ownership has a lot of money would rather just buy him out if need be. If they are smart they will offer to eat up a $1 million of his salary and get a high pick in return.
You really don't have to look any farther than the Perron deal. It was a salary dump trade and they still got a 2nd and a prospect for him. Not that i wanted Perron but if the flames wanted in on that deal they could not afford it asset wise.
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While I am not particularly set on a JML deal (it was just an example) I disagree with a number of the points raised above:
1. In my opinion, Perron is not a good comparable "salary dump" to JML. Perron is a very good player but StL is stacked with other good forwards and someone had to go. Perron is worth a 2nd and a prospect whereas JML is not.
2. Toronto has already used their two compliance buyouts and all other buyouts will count against the cap. Ownership's money is not relevant in this case. They already have $2.5M of their cap space spent on Scrivens, Frattin, Armstrong and Tucker who are no longer with the team. How much more of their scarce cap room can they spare on another buyout?
3. Once Kadri and Franson sign, Toronto may not have any more space to retain $1M of JML salary and therefore should not be expecting a return for him. They should expect to give up assets like Nashville did in the Lombardi trade.
4. "shed someway or another" is easier said than done, I would guess. This is where the Flames come in handy.
Anyways, I think a few events have occurred that put the Flames squarely in position to take advantage of the situation.
- Kipper officially retires giving the Flames $13.5M in cap space
- Burke is hired, and he has a history of taking on salary to acquire future assets (Primeau, Lombardi, etc)
- RFA signings (apparently Kadri will get somewhere between 5.7 and 7.0
[EDIT-OVER 2 YEARS]) and other 23-man roster additions will continue to put 10 teams at the cap ceiling (some will have LTIR to use but at least 5 of those teams should be looking to dump salary) and another 11 teams will have around $2.5 cap room or less.
- Cgy will be perhaps the only team in the NHL with both Cap Room AND Budget to accomodate a bona fide salary dump. The other 8 teams with $3.5M+ Cap Room are likely losing money as is.
In my mind, Cgy should be able to swing two or three salary dump deals to acquire a total of two or three 2014 2nd round picks (or other good future assets).
Cgy would then have four 2nd round picks in 2014, and could either use the picks or trade up 2-for-1 and acquire two mid-to-late 1st round picks in 2014 and thus have another three 1st rounders next year (no 2nd round pick).
Alternatively, those 2nd round picks could be traded for quality young players that fit the long term plans, or even part of a major package for a major piece.
