Kris Letang - Must Move

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

huh?

Just ignore that. An oilers buddy texted me about Knight all ticked off and not sure what happened but I must have had the quick reply box open and instead of texting him I posted. I changed it to a more topical post.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by blankall

The Pens aren't taking Stastny. The issue with the Pens is they are paying their 2 centres too much money. Taking on another high paid centre is the exact opposite of what they want to do.

A deal involving a player like Giordano may actually appeal to them. With cap constraints, the Pens are going to have to compromise on talent in order to take on good contract value.

To Pitts:

Giordano
Glencross
+

To Cal:

Letang

Letang is only just 26. As a defenceman, he may not reach his prime for 2-3 years, which puts his window exactly into the Flames own rebuild. If the Flames can find a taker for Wideman, we'd be looking at a huge upgrade in our top pairing. Letang paired with a stay at home veteran, gives you an excellent top pairing.

For Pitts, they get two gritty players in their prime on great contracts. Glencross' greatest skill is getting into scoring positions. He'd be a 30+ goal guy playing with either of Malkin or Crosby. If the Pens want a cheap d-man (IE under 5 mil), Giordano is about as good as you get.

This is all dependent on talks with Letang showing a willingness to sign an extension in Calgary. Offer him 6+mil on a long term and let him know the team is willing to build around him and I think he toughs out 2-3 years of rebuild. We aren't talking about a vet in the twilight of his career.

No thanks to that trade.

Oilers will be all over this.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by wretched34

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...player-by-pens

Reports that the Penguins are looking at Letang as a "Must Move" contract, as he will be demanding a big raise, longer terms, and a clause come next year when he is UFA.

Is this something the Flames should be taking interest in, he currently does not have a clause, so the trade lines are open, but is offering anything remotely close enough to what the Pens will be looking for, worth the risk of having him walk next season?

What would it take to make this deal? With the Pens saying they must move him, that drops the return significantly, as they are putting it out there, that they can't keep him. But what could the Flames risk? Gio and the return of Pittsburgh's 1st? Does Shero laugh at this, or does it make sense? Gio is locked down at $4.02M for 3 more years. Do they cut the Flames a break based on the Iggy deal?

Would love to see Letang in a Flames jersey, but doubt he'd stick around. Although if he expresses 0 interest in re-signing, possibility is there to flip him for a 2014 first to a contender that he wants to Re-sign with next year. If he wants to test the FA market, would we get any value at the deadline?

I saw Rossi and stopped reading. Don't take him seriously... He's a total joke.

[King Theo]

NO! I don't want him here. Don't give away picks for the overrated player. He is that good because of the team that he plays for.

[sun]

We would have to pay through the nose to get Letang to sign here. I was a bigger fan of his before I saw his play this postseason - pretty disappointing. Still a good player though.

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by moon

Subban just won it getting beat much more often.

He actually rarely gets beat. He does still make high-risk stupid decisions at times, though, and is prone to giveaways. But he had a fantastic year even defensively, hence the Norris.

I'd probably take him over Letang at this point, and I never was a fan.

[YYC in LAX]

I think Pittsburgh will be signing him. But if not, that's just bad management. What are you doing giving Malkin 1 million more per year than Crosby? Those are the dollars that count and if they can't come to terms with Letang, that's just horrible.

He'll probably fetch 6 million/year?

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by King Theo

NO! I don't want him here. Don't give away picks for the overrated player. He is that good because of the team that he plays for.

I agree as well. Paul Martin's points were inflated this year as well by playing with Pittsburgh.

[jesters91]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

I think Pittsburgh will be signing him. But if not, that's just bad management. What are you doing giving Malkin 1 million more per year than Crosby? Those are the dollars that count and if they can't come to terms with Letang, that's just horrible.

He'll probably fetch 6 million/year?

Pittsburgh Penguins GM Ray Shero and agent Kent Hughes, who reps star blue-liner Kris Letang, are slated to meet here in Boston on Wednesday, a source told ESPN.com.

It only makes sense because Hughes lives in Boston and Shero is in town for the NHL's general managers meeting.

It could potentially be a pivotal meeting in terms of what transpires on the Letang front. The blue-liner has one year left on his deal, but Shero’s usual M.O. is not to wait it out. Just look at the Jordan Staal situation a year ago. After Staal, who had one year left on his deal, rejected a contract extension from the Penguins, Shero dealt him quickly thereafter.

It could be that Shero will get the ball rolling on trade talks if Letang rejects whatever offer might be coming from the Penguins' GM.

And know this, I don’t think Letang signs for any less than $7 million a season.

Wednesday’s meeting, therefore, will be a compelling discussion either way.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...rc=desktop&wjb

[Fire]

Pass! His totals are hugely inflated playing in Pittsburgh.

[calumniate]

Le pass

[SebC]

Letang to the Canes for the 5th?

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by SebC

Letang to the Canes for the 5th?

Then the Pens can draft Nichushkin and play him with Malkin and Neal

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by wretched34

My thought was Gio + pens 1st would be a break, not asking that he take Blair Jones and 7th for him.
Gio is very serviceable and locked down for 3 years at a decent cap hit, which is what the Pens need, and is why they are moving Letang.
Or is Gio + the 1st not even remotely close?
I don't think the Pens can ask for to much when they are flat out saying, "We can't afford another high end player contract"

I don't care whether Letang is worth that or not, it is a terrible trade for the Flames.

Our defense would be worse than the Oilers' and we would have given up a 1st that would bring us another young, needed asset.

It drives me nuts that people want to trade (read: overpay) for every single player that becomes available, without giving any regard as to whether it would actually make sense or not.

[jeffman]

We should pick him up just to prevent him from going to the canucks

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by jesters91

And know this, I don’t think Letang signs for any less than $7 million a season.

#### me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos... $7 mill for Letang is utter madness.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I don't care whether Letang is worth that or not, it is a terrible trade for the Flames.

Our defense would be worse than the Oilers' and we would have given up a 1st that would bring us another young, needed asset.

It drives me nuts that people want to trade (read: overpay) for every single player that becomes available, without giving any regard as to whether it would actually make sense or not.

I get why posters would not want Letang considering the flames position, but Gio and the 28th pick is not "overpay". Thats a proposition that would be laughed at by Shero.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Fire

Pass! His totals are hugely inflated playing in Pittsburgh.

His point totals are not inflated from being in Pitt. When Crosby or Malkin are out he still gets plenty of points. He is one of the main contributors when it comes to points. Now his defense play is another matter.

[mkd_087]

Letang just isn't the solid defensive guy we need with this rebuild. He did not look good in the playoffs with a Pittsburgh calibre team...and I know it's cheap to base it off that but I couldn't see him doing well with a young inexperienced team. Gio had a rough season but he very well could be our team captain moving forward and shows alot of heart. I wouldn't be trading him. Luckily with many teams being in cap trouble and our abundance of cap room I'm sure better suited names and trade partners will rise.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I get why posters would not want Letang considering the flames position, but Gio and the 28th pick is not "overpay". Thats a proposition that would be laughed at by Shero.

overpay was a general reference (notice I was referring to trading for every available player)

I agree that Letang probably gets something like that (though the fact that he will be a UFA should dampen the return)

Regardless, horrible idea for the Flames. Letang would put up 30-40 pts on the Flames and his defensive weaknesses would be both exposed and exaggerated. We would have to give him a massive contract and his value would plummet.