Max Domi -

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

Domi was getting lots of love from Kypreos and MacLean today on Hockey Central @ Noon. MacLean believes Domi might go between 7-12, based on his conversations with scouts, one in particular had him ranked at #9.

Francis, Kypreos and MacLean. Talk about a winning trifecta. That's pretty much the media kiss of death right there. All he needs now is McGuire to call him a monster...

[kehatch]

It is possible one or two of Monahan, Lindholm, and Barkov are gone by 6. If the Flames don't think the guy remaining is markedly better then they could trade down and pick up Domi, Shinkaruk, Nurse, Poluck, or a similar prospect.

I don't think they will. I don't think they should. But at the same time it wouldn't be the worst or most shocking thing if they did. Assuming they got a decent return for moving down and they don't move so low they can't pick up the player they want.

For example, trade our six overall and the Pittsburgh pick to Buffalo for their 8 overall and the Wild pick. Brings our late first to 16 overall. Not sure if Buffalo does that, but that would let us draft Domi at 8 and get a great player at 16.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by T@T

Gagner will probably be a star as soon as he gets away from that nightmare he's been in for 6 years!

If Domi drops to our 2nd pick they would be totally ######ed not to take him. Moot point, he goes top 12 anyway.

I agree. Putting Oiler hate aside, Gagner would be a terrific pick in the range that Domi is expected to be drafted at in this draft.

I still like Horvat better than Domi though, but I would be happy with either if we got one with the St. Louis pick. It seems very unlikely though. Horvat just seems to have more NHL translatable intangibles and physical qualities IMO.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by kehatch

It is possible one or two of Monahan, Lindholm, and Barkov are gone by 6. If the Flames don't think the guy remaining is markedly better then they could trade down and pick up Domi, Shinkaruk, Nurse, Poluck, or a similar prospect.

I don't think they will. I don't think they should. But at the same time it wouldn't be the worst or most shocking thing if they did. Assuming they got a decent return for moving down and they don't move so low they can't pick up the player they want.

For example, trade our six overall and the Pittsburgh pick to Buffalo for their 8 overall and the Wild pick. Brings our late first to 16 overall. Not sure if Buffalo does that, but that would let us draft Domi at 8 and get a great player at 16.

Even though i don't believe much of what comes out of Feaster's mouth, i do think he was telling the truth when he said the flames would not trade down on the #6 pick.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Even though i don't believe much of what comes out of Feaster's mouth, i do think he was telling the truth when he said the flames would not trade down on the #6 pick.

I don't remember him saying that. I know he called the pick 'pretty much' untouchable. But he also said there were 4 elite players in this draft and then a bunch of tier 2 players. I don't think it would be completely shocking for him to move down 2 spots.

[GreenLantern]

I paid special attention to Domi at last nights game, I was sitting behind the penalty box so I got some good exposure to the kid as he complained his way up and down the ice.

He skated just as hard at 0-0 as he did at 8-2, lack luster and floating. I saw no back check and very little jump in his step at any point in the game. There was nothing about this kid that impressed me, bad game? Probably? But still my take.

Horvat was all over the place, kid was driving the net and skating back to break up plays in the neutral zone, he looked hell bent on bringing his team back into it despite the hole they were in. The rest of the team seemed to skate a little harder (sans Domi) when that kid was on the ice. Great attitude.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by kehatch

I don't remember him saying that. I know he called the pick 'pretty much' untouchable. But he also said there were 4 elite players in this draft and then a bunch of tier 2 players. I don't think it would be completely shocking for him to move down 2 spots.

He said it. Only way that pick was moving was if it was moving up. Re-Watch the end of season presser.

[Dienasty]

I think petan has looked better then domi. However as a prospect, due to domi being thicker he should be a bit better.

However domi is getting the press because in Toronto they love tie.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by kehatch

I don't remember him saying that. I know he called the pick 'pretty much' untouchable. But he also said there were 4 elite players in this draft and then a bunch of tier 2 players. I don't think it would be completely shocking for him to move down 2 spots.

I wondered why he said only 4 elite players- I think there are at least 5 as I think Nichushkin is definately an elite talent. Also, I heard he got out of his KHL contract and wants to play in the NHL next year. If this is true, I think he goes higher than origionally projected. If this guy is available at #6, I hope we steal him.

[you got PHANUEFED]

The kid has talent, I also had him on my radar for one of later picks. The Flames have 3 picks so they should walk away with 3 natural C-men and hope one of them can become that #1 guy.

[cral12]

For an in depth profile on Domi check out:

Max Domi – The Next Ones: 2013 NHL Draft Prospect Profile

[King Theo]

I did not like the dive from Domi last night.

Maybe take him at 19 (St Louis Pick), but he will not be there.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

What world do you live in where 5'10" is a midget?

Every professional sports league with the exception of the lingerie football league?

Domi is short but thick. That can be a good thing if he can work through playing against guys taller with a greater reach than him. I'm not a fan because of our size disadvantage we are developing. Our two best prospects (Bartschi and Gaudreau) are both small players. You can only have so many small players on your team before handicapping yourself against teams that have the size advantage.

I would prefer we didn't build "something special" down here with a bunch of players south of 6' and incapable of competing when the games get physical. If Dominic is available I would prefer we passed and let someone else take the gamble that his size will not be a problem down the road, especially when there are other players on the board just as highly regarded and fit our needs better.

[FlamesAddiction]

From the draft thread, but I thought it was worth throwing into this discussion regarding the Horvat vs. Domi debate:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=4321

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Ron Sutter, Flames Dir. Player Personnel talks about some top prospects at the Memorial Cup, as well as Wotherspoon and Ferland. Says Wotherspoon is ready for the pro game


Says Mackinnon has been the best of the top 3 prospects in the tourney. Likes Bo Horvat; says he plays a complete game; on Domi, says he's skilled but has deficiencies


Development camp July 10-16


http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/on-demand/

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

From the draft thread, but I thought it was worth throwing into this discussion regarding the Horvat vs. Domi debate:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=4321

I imagine MacKinnon was the player the Flames lust over and the reason management tried so hard to tank into position to possibly get him. I don't think they were ever going to finish lower than the Avs and Panthers.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by New Era

Every professional sports league with the exception of the lingerie football league?

Domi is short but thick. That can be a good thing if he can work through playing against guys taller with a greater reach than him. I'm not a fan because of our size disadvantage we are developing. Our two best prospects (Bartschi and Gaudreau) are both small players. You can only have so many small players on your team before handicapping yourself against teams that have the size advantage.

I would prefer we didn't build "something special" down here with a bunch of players south of 6' and incapable of competing when the games get physical. If Dominic is available I would prefer we passed and let someone else take the gamble that his size will not be a problem down the road, especially when there are other players on the board just as highly regarded and fit our needs better.

Actually you would be surprised how many players are in NFL/CFL below 6'. Lots of returners, slot receivers, running backs, defensive backs shorter than 6' as at the end of the day speed rules. If they take say Monahan that is 6'2" is this not adressing size? At the end of the day skill is the be all end all as tall players that don't have elite skills rarely turn into difference makers. Valuing size over skill is a flawed and the reason the Flames are in their current predicament in the first place as for years Darry Sutter over valued measurables and it resulted in the least talented prospect pool in the league. Nobody can argue that the Flames could use some size in their lineup but there are six more rounds to address size and it's important to make these first round picks count on skilled players.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I imagine MacKinnon was the player the Flames lust over and the reason management tried so hard to tank into position to possibly get him. I don't think they were ever going to finish lower than the Avs and Panthers.

2 less wins and he would've been ours. Le sigh.

[Stay Golden]

Just a guess Domi goes somewhere between 9-13th. He won't be there for the STL pick but Horvat could be.

[Major Major]

I would love Horvat at that second pick. Seems like exactly the type of player this franchise targets and needs. Domi seems like everything I want to stay away from. Overhyped because of who is dad was and who he played for. Also, overhyped on one smooth dangly pass... He makes that play 1 out of 10 times and looks like an idiot the other 9. I was almost as impressed with the finish on that goal by Horvat.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Major Major

I would love Horvat at that second pick. Seems like exactly the type of player this franchise targets and needs. Domi seems like everything I want to stay away from. Overhyped because of who is dad was and who he played for. Also, overhyped on one smooth dangly pass... He makes that play 1 out of 10 times and looks like an idiot the other 9. I was almost as impressed with the finish on that goal by Horvat.

I don't think he's particularly overhyped. He's a speedster with dynamic offensive abilities. He's worthy of being a 1st rounder on his own merits, it has nothing to do with his father or just that one pass.

That said I'd prefer we grab some bigger players as we do already have Baertschi and Gaudreau as small forwards.