What could Calgary do to move up in the draft rankings to acquire Nathan MacKinnon?

[Yanda]

I like the idea of moving up but id be also be happy with 3rd-5th overall. Then we could get whoever falls, be it Mackinnion, Drouin or Barkov. I dont like the feeling of settling for Monahan, Nichushkin or Lindholm.

I hope the flames dont trade down from #6, and I dont want the flames to draft a goalie in the 1st round. Id even perfer to avoid defensemen unless there a standout BPA.

[dammage79]

This is what is going to make this draft very interesting. So many options for every team in the top seven we could potentially see one or even two players drop or rise.

I really do believe as it stands now, the only sure bet is Jones going to COL. FLA and TB are coin flips on how they draft. I get the sense though there are going to be a few teams very conflicted on who to take in the top five.

I am starting to think like a few others though, keep the picks we have and have a strong draft and stuff the cupboards full. But Feaster isn't doing his job if he isn't exploring every opportunity to trade up with every team above them right up to the last second of every pick.

One more thing, those two extra firsts the Flames have are of high value in this draft as it is really deep. More so than most other drafts.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

There is a big difference between a franchise Center and everything else, IMO.

Very much agreed. IMO, we need MacKinnon to re-start this franchise and we should do everything possible to get him- except give up Sven and our next year's first (which could be very high). Everything else I'm cool with because there is a big difference between MacKinnon and Monahan and the Flames need a center piece to start building around.

[Jacks]

People are comparing this draft to 2003, look at the centres drafted that year.

2) Eric Staal
3) Nathan Horton
11) Jeff Carter
15) Robert Nilsson
17) Zach Parise
19) Ryan Getzlaf
22) Marc-Antoine Pouliot
23) Ryan Kesler
24) Mike Richards
26) Brian Boyle

Would you like to get Staal? of course.
Would you trade Carter, a 1st and a good prospect to move up and draft Horton? hell no.
Let's just hope our scouting delivers us the Getzlaf or Parise and not the Pouliot.

[Roof-Daddy]

Just keep our picks and current prospects and draft BPA.

Try to get too cute and your more likely to get burned in the end IMO.

[kyuss275]

Don't think it can be done. It would cost Sven + 1st or 2013 1st and 2014 first. Flames are in no position to do it.

I really do believe that MacKinnon is a step above the Barkov's, Lindholms and Monohans. At most i would offer is 2013 1st and Johnny hockey. I doubt Florida would do it.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Don't think it can be done. It would cost Sven + 1st or 2013 1st and 2014 first. Flames are in no position to do it.

I really do believe that MacKinnon is a step above the Barkov's, Lindholms and Monohans. At most i would offer is 2013 1st and Johnny hockey. I doubt Florida would do it.

Completely agree.

The most I would pay would be the 1st + Backlund or Gaudreau. But I doubt that gets it done.

You never know though. Florida may have reservations about him and would be willing to trade as a result.

[Enoch Root]

I would think that Tampa really wants Drouin.

If Florida takes him instead of MacKinnon, Tampa might be interested in our 1st + Gaudreau.

They might think that walking away with Nichushkin and Gaudreau with a #3 pick would be massive, and I would agree with them.

But for the Flames, it would be all about getting that elite C

[LGA]

Honestly, I don't see any of the top-3 teams trading down unless they get a massive overpayment. The Avs biggest need is D, and they are in position to draft Jones. Florida really needs that top-line center and they'll likely draft MacKinnon. Drouin is the heir apparent to St. Louis in Tampa. All three teams are in position to draft what makes a ton of sense for their franchises.

[FlameZilla]

The only move the Flames need to make in order to swap the 6th overall for the 2nd/3rd overall is to sack Feaster and hire Burke. Simple as that.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Jacks

People are comparing this draft to 2003, look at the centres drafted that year.

2) Eric Staal
3) Nathan Horton
11) Jeff Carter
15) Robert Nilsson
17) Zach Parise
19) Ryan Getzlaf
22) Marc-Antoine Pouliot
23) Ryan Kesler
24) Mike Richards
26) Brian Boyle

Would you like to get Staal? of course.
Would you trade Carter, a 1st and a good prospect to move up and draft Horton? hell no.
Let's just hope our scouting delivers us the Getzlaf or Parise and not the Pouliot.

Hahaha geez...only Edmonton and perhaps Calgary would manage to draft the Pouliot in that first round C class.

[bubbsy]

first off, it's a pipe dream to think you can get into the top 3 unless you are willing to part with something this franchise simply can't afford at the moment.

I'd prefer the flames just use the draft picks to stock pile the prospect pool. 3 x 1st rounders in a deep draft is something to be very excited about. Hopefully there is still an elite level guy left at 6.

[van fan down by river]

Its not worth the price it would cost the flames to move up in the draft to get MacKinnon. The Flames are better of staying pat and drafting Elias Lindholm , Barkov or Sean Monahan at the 6th spot.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by calgARI

Which is why a package including Calgary's 2014 first round pick might be a starting point to a package not including Baertschi or Brodie.

Wouldn't be too surprised to see Feaster trying to move Backlund, the 6th, and one of the 1st rounders to get into the top 3.

I think a bit about Burke getting the Sedins. Started with the 3rd overall pick. He made a bunch of trades starting with McCabe and the next year's 1st round pick for the 4th overall pick. Then he sent 4th overall and two 3rd rounders for the 1st overall. Then he traded the 1st overall and another 3rd round pick for the 2nd overall. Seems pretty easy in hindsight but clearly highway robbery.

This would be the dumbest thing Feaster could do.

Is the gap between MacKinnon and Monahan a first round pick and Backlund?
The organization lacks depth in all areas. Trading a #1 center, a first rounder and a marginal second liner (who showed a lot of promise this year) for a better #1 center is not smart.

I like to look back at the Lindros trade. Not comparing Monahan to Forsberg, or MacKinnon to Lindros, but look how badly that deal worked out for the Flyers, and how well it worked out for the Nordiques/Avalanche.

The pick we have at #6 will land us Monahan, Lindholm, or Barkov. Whatever player we get will be an excellent building block.

I think this draft is more 2003 where the gap between 1-5 and 6-10 is not that much. Unlike 2004, where the gap between 1-2 and the rest of the draft was quite significant, where a deal to trade 2 firsts and a player for higher first is justified.

[JJsChaos]

This is not going to be a one-year rebuild. I say save our picks and start building up the prospect pool. I can't see anyway how we are not in the bottom 5 next year, and potentially the year after. This is what most fans asked for, a rebuild. Buckle down and get ready for a couple rough years. Lets hope we can get out of it a little faster then our friends up north.

[JJsChaos]

Plus, the Blues and Pens are making this a lot more interesting then I thought they would.

[Mitch]

Why would Florida trade down?

[you got PHANUEFED]

Take the 3 picks and draft Center heavy.

[NewFan]

I wouldn't pay much for the 2nd overall. May be our 1st + Horak.
Hopefully we can draft 1st line from this draft.

[OzSome]

No way I will include Baertschi or TJ Brodie on the package to get 2nd pick overall. I think our first round pick and St. Louis first round pick will suffice or even add a 3rd or 4th rounder but adding one of our young prospect will be stupid. If Tallon doesn't think those draft picks are not good enough, then Feaster should walk away. I really think Florida will pick the Finnish guy or maybe Drouin and not McKinnon.