Poll: "Do you believe in the current mgmt group"

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by calgARI

Have said it before but Brian Burke is such a perfect fit for where this team and organization are.

I don't know. Did he turn the leafs around? They're a middle of the road team imo

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I don't know. Did he turn the leafs around? They're a middle of the road team imo

They are looking good right now and have a young team going forward. Nonnis really has not done much since he took over, so in essence Toronto's team this year is from Burke.

[Erick Estrada]

Feaster himself said he wasn't the man for a rebuild so he should resign as should King from his role as president of the team. The oragnization embaressed itself this season and it's time to hand off the hockey operations to a hockey man of pedigree. Wether it be Burke, Maloney (if he becomes available), Hextall, etc. this team needs to be handed to a GM that's going to do positive work and bring back respectability to an organization that has become a laughing stock of the league.

[Resolute 14]

I really fail to see how an arrogant, self-agrandizing blowhard is a perfect fit for anyone. No thanks to that circus sideshow.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I don't know. Did he turn the leafs around? They're a middle of the road team imo

Their core is all under 30 and in most cases still mid-20's. They also have Gardiner, Reilly, Kadri all in their early 20's with big upside.

Burke is a good trading GM. The JVR, Phanuef, and Lupul/Gardiner deals were all massive wins for Toronto. The Kessel deal stunk because he over-estimated the team he had that season but Kessel as a player has developed into a first line sniper with 5 25 goal seasons at 25 years old.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

They are looking good right now and have a young team going forward. Nonnis really has not done much since he took over, so in essence Toronto's team this year is from Burke.

Are they going to be a contender any time soon? I don't see it. No elite players in any position, maybe Kadri but it's really early.

Playoffs is now success? I thought the goal was to be a contender?

[kermitology]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Oh hell no.

Hahahahahahahaha

Honestly though, Feaster made a fool of himself, and King, as much good as he DID for the team in the past, cannot be trusted if he is going to try and get his hands dirty in hockey operations. If he steps back and just deals with the business side of things, then I'm fine with King, otherwise.. GTFO.

#FireFeaster #FireKing

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Other than post glow of runs like 2004 I am pretty sure this kind of poll would always look the same in Calgary.

I am sure the flames are happy to have people care one way or the other though.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Are they going to be a contender any time soon? I don't see it. No elite players in any position, maybe Kadri but it's really early.

Playoffs is now success? I thought the goal was to be a contender?

You do not become a contender overnight. He botched up the Kessel trade which set them back. It's going to take the flames 3-4 years until they are at the point the Leafs are at now.

Granted i am not sure if he is the right fit for the flames. Would have liked him hired months before the deadline. He is head over heals better than Feaster and i am not sure what else is out there.

[Tinordi]

The Kessel trade smacked of hubris. Nothing like a little humble pie to re-focus yourself. Burke is currently the best option out there.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by FBI

After seeing Cundari play, I am liking the Bouwmeester trade.

A year ago, a second round pick seemed like the optimistic return we could have hoped for.

Really, really happy with the Bouwmeester trade.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

You do not become a contender overnight. He botched up the Kessel trade which set them back. It's going to take the flames 3-4 years until they are at the point the Leafs are at now.

Granted i am not sure if he is the right fit for the flames. Would have liked him hired months before the deadline. He is head over heals better than Feaster and i am not sure what else is out there.

Agreed you don't become a contender overnight, but NOTHING Burke did that I can see will cause the leafs to become a contender. Leafs are as close as a lot of other teams

[kyuss275]

I quickly hit the "no to both" button. I want Feaster gone, but KK deserves a promotion to head of everything ( what ever the title is). I don't want him as president, but you don't let a business guy like KK hit the curb. Any company or organization would be very happy to have KK on their payroll.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I don't know. Did he turn the leafs around? They're a middle of the road team imo

First time they've made the playoffs in 9 years and the team is pretty much his team.

Of course he turned that team around. They're no powerhouse but they are a lot tougher to play against than they were before Burke took over.

I'd love Burke here, but don't think that will happen since he likes to take the charge on almost every issue and there are too many hands controlling the Flames for him to work out here.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

First time they've made the playoffs in 9 years and the team is pretty much his team.

Of course he turned that team around. They're no powerhouse but they are a lot tougher to play against than they were before Burke took over.

I'd love Burke here, but don't think that will happen since he likes to take the charge on almost every issue and there are too many hands controlling the Flames for him to work out here.

I agree but if he gets the dual role of President and GM he really only has to answer to ownership and that is the case with every team in the league. I don't se Burke coming in to work for King though he will need both roles like he had in Toronto.

[Tinordi]

The ROR debacle wasn't a debacle because of the technicality. It was a debacle because the team was trading a top end pick in a very deep draft for a relatively unproven and incredibly expensive center to try to hoist them into the playoffs. Again, a strategy that has repeatedly failed over the past 4 years.

That move was just damning. No competent management team makes a move like that.

The technicality and that fallout was just icing on the cake.

We would have been watching us continue to flail while Colorado enjoyed Monahan or Lindholm on their roster for 7+ years.

[trackercowe]

The Kessel trade wasn't that bad, he was a top ten player in the league this year, and going forward could be a better player than Seguin at least. If you include Hamilton it is pretty lopsided, but in hindsight it made sense at the time. It just gets a ton more exposure because it involved the Leafs, but you could argue many worse trades have been made since then (the Phaneuf trade, James Neal, etc).

I agree that Burke is the best option out there; I don't think he was the best GM in the league, but perhaps in the top ten. He would be a huge step up over what we have though. I just wonder if he'd want to come to Calgary, Burke doesn't seem to be the type who would want to deal with meddling owners (he said as much when he left Toronto). I am going to be pretty depressed if/when another team signs him though, as there really isn't anyone else available at the moment.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The ROR debacle wasn't a debacle because of the technicality. It was a debacle because the team was trading a top end pick in a very deep draft for a relatively unproven and incredibly expensive center to try to hoist them into the playoffs. Again, a strategy that has repeatedly failed over the past 4 years.

That move was just damning. No competent management team makes a move like that.

The technicality and that fallout was just icing on the cake.

We would have been watching us continue to flail while Colorado enjoyed Monahan or Lindholm on their roster for 7+ years.

Don't forget Feaster saw ROR as an elite center. Not sure how? He was also willing to pay him $6.5 million.

[trackercowe]

Oh and don't get too far ahead in praising Feaster for his draft record, sure many of his picks look good now, but it's too early to really make a judgement call. It's probably his one saving grace right now, but if you look into his previous drafting record in Tampa Bay, he was absolutely terrible. So wait until some of these guys make an impact at the NHL level until we give him any praise for that.

[Igottago]

I think thus far the best rating you could give Feaster's reign is average. I think trades and signings have been mediocre to poor. No real absolute standouts.

I give the management team some credit for drafting. Although its too early to be fully realized there seems to be more promise in the young ranks. But that's compared to a history of horrid drafting, so any improvement would seem amazing in comparison.

The real test is now. How they handle this draft and any off season transactions will really define this team moving forward. The excuse of inhereting the old mess is gone now. This is Feasters chance to define the team completely on his terms. In order to gain the confidence of the fanbase he's gotta hit it out of the park and show the fans there is a bright future ahead.