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Old 04-28-2013, 10:30 AM   #41
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Oilers win the lottery, draft first overall.
This.

And pick the winger.
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This thread is one day too early. Need to wait to see who wins the lottery first.
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Here's a good article on NHL.com that has the chances of each team winning the lottery as well as how the lottery has affected previous drafts:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=668044
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Nashville wins lottery

1. Nashville - Nathan MacKinnon

Colorado trades 3rd pick, 32nd pick to Florida for 2nd pick

2. Colorado - Seth Jones
3. Florida - Jonathan Drouin
4. Tampa Bay - Darnell Nurse
5. Carolina - Valeri Nichushkin
6. Calgary - Aleksander Barkov
7. Edmonton - Nikita Zadorov
8. Buffalo - Sean Monahan
9. New Jersey - Max Domi
10. Dallas - Rasmus Ristolainen

Calgary trades St. Louis 1st (22nd), Pittsburgh 1st (30th) to Philadelphia for 11th pick, 41st pick

11. Calgary - Elias Lindholm
12. Phoenix - Alexander Wennberg
13. Winnipeg - Curtis Lazar
14. Columbus - Hunter Shinkaruk
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Nashville wins lottery

1. Nashville - Nathan MacKinnon

Colorado trades 3rd pick, 32nd pick to Florida for 2nd pick

2. Colorado - Seth Jones
3. Florida - Jonathan Drouin
4. Tampa Bay - Darnell Nurse
5. Carolina - Valeri Nichushkin
6. Calgary - Aleksander Barkov
7. Edmonton - Nikita Zadorov
8. Buffalo - Sean Monahan
9. New Jersey - Max Domi
10. Dallas - Rasmus Ristolainen

Calgary trades St. Louis 1st (22nd), Pittsburgh 1st (30th) to Philadelphia for 11th pick, 41st pick

11. Calgary - Elias Lindholm
12. Phoenix - Alexander Wennberg
13. Winnipeg - Curtis Lazar
14. Columbus - Hunter Shinkaruk
If that happens, Feaster should be free of any criticism for a year.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:05 PM   #46
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Nashville wins lottery

1. Nashville - Nathan MacKinnon

Colorado trades 3rd pick, 32nd pick to Florida for 2nd pick

2. Colorado - Seth Jones
3. Florida - Jonathan Drouin
4. Tampa Bay - Darnell Nurse
5. Carolina - Valeri Nichushkin
6. Calgary - Aleksander Barkov
7. Edmonton - Nikita Zadorov
8. Buffalo - Sean Monahan
9. New Jersey - Max Domi
10. Dallas - Rasmus Ristolainen

Calgary trades St. Louis 1st (22nd), Pittsburgh 1st (30th) to Philadelphia for 11th pick, 41st pick

11. Calgary - Elias Lindholm
12. Phoenix - Alexander Wennberg
13. Winnipeg - Curtis Lazar
14. Columbus - Hunter Shinkaruk

I am very hard on Feaster but if he can pull that off i will name him Czar of the flames.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:11 PM   #47
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I am very hard on Feaster but if he can pull that off i will name him Czar of the flames.
Hmmm.

In my "prediction" Feaster didn't really do anything that special IMO.

He just got lucky having Barkov fall to him because of Nurse jumping up a couple spots, and Carolina being willing to gamble on Nichushkin.

Then he got lucky again having Lindholm drop out of the top ten (Zadorov, Domi and Ristolainen jump up), and then Philly is willing to deal because they feel they will get a better combination of two prospects they are high on at 22 & 30 than they would with the combination of 11 & 41.

Reality will probably differ greatly from my prediction though. (obv)
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:52 PM   #48
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posted a prediction in the draft thread a few days ago ... changed it now because of CGY and EDM switching places and PHI passing BUF, NJ and DAL. Expanded it to 14 teams and think this could be realistic in terms of team needs ... but who knows, right?

# 1 - Florida Panthers: D Seth Jones
Too good and too much of a building block to pass.

# 2 - Colorado Avalanche: C/RW Nathan MacKinnon
Tough choice. What they'd really need is Jones, but if they plan to use MacKinnon on the wing like some scouts suggest, a Landeskog-Duchene-MacKinnon line would be pretty neat.

# 3 - Tampa Bay Lightning: LW Jonathan Drouin
A no-brainer if Jones and MacKinnon are gone. They don't have a glaring need at the center position with Stamkos and Lecavalier, but a skilled LW like Drouin makes a lot of sense.

# 4 - Nashville Predators: C Aleksander Barkov
They don't need Barkov immediately IF he has to stay over there because of military service (I'm not sure if he has to), as they have two veterans in Fisher and Legwand. Wilson+Barkov down the middle is solid going forward.

# 5 - Carolina Hurricanes: RW Valeri Nishushkin
Outside of Semin and Skinner, the Hurricanes don't have quality wingers. They have locked up a Russian primadonna to a long-term contract, maybe they'd take a flyer on another one?

# 6 - Calgary Flames: C Elias Lindholm
The Flames have the choice between him and Monahan in this scenario. Both look very solid going forward and you probably can't go wrong with either one of them. I like Lindholm slightly more, so he gets the nod in this scenario.

# 7 - Edmonton Coilers: D Darnell Nurse
Don't know if MacTavish and his scouts see it that way, but that's what they need, anyway.

# 8 - Buffalo Sabres: C Sean Monahan
They already have good center depth, but given that they have two first rounders, they can afford to go BPA here and Monahan is too good to pass up at this point.

# 9 - New Jersey Devils: D Rasmus Ristolainen
Zidlicky, Salvador and Tallinder are all in their mid 30s, and in addition to Larsson and Merrill, a puck-moving defenseman like Ristolainen gives the Devils a great foundation on the blueline.

# 10 - Dallas Stars: LW Hunter Shinkaruk
I thought defenseman at first, but after trading for Joe Morrow, I could easily see them strengthen the wing with a pure goal scorer like Shinkaruk.

# 11 - Philadelphia Flyers: D Ryan Pulock
They Flyers already have good depth among young forwards, but they desperately need an impact prospect on the blue line and could need a puck-moving defenseman, as Timonen doesn't get younger and Carle is gone. Therefore, they go with Pulock.

# 12 - Phoenix Coyotes: C Max Domi
The Coyotes have often chosen defenseman in the first round over the last years and they have had some success with them. They chose a forward late in the first round last year with Samuelsson and it's time to go forward again this year.

# 13 - Winnipeg Jets: RW Adam Erne
The Jets used their first two first rounders after their move to Winnipeg for a center in Scheifele and a defenseman in Trouba. Both are looking good so far ... so how about a winger to go along with them?

# 14 - Columbus Blue Jackets: LW Anthony Mantha
The Jackets' left wing is extremely weak when it comes to prospects, so a goalscorer and power forward like Mantha is a good choice for the first of their three first round picks.

Honorable mention and other top 20 candidates: Bo Horvat, Nikita Zadorov, Josh Morrissey, Frederick Gauthier, Robert Hägg.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:20 PM   #49
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Predictions for the Flames:

1st round: Lindholm (C), Hartman (RW), Hagg (D)

2nd round (via trade somehow): Bogdan Yakimov (C)

3rd round: Viktor Crus-Rydberg (C)

4th round: Mitch Wheaton (D)

5th round: Juuso Ikonen (LW), Connor Rankin (LW)

6th round: Carson Soucy (D)

7th round: Evan Allen (C), Nicolas Beaudin (LW) (Jankowski's classmate from Stanstead)

Would love for the Flames to trade a veteran for a second round pick. Tons and tons of good selections available.

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Old 04-28-2013, 02:13 PM   #50
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Florida - Jones. Florida needs pretty much everything and Jones is commonly rated #1.
Colorado - MacKinnon. They'll beg and plead Florida for the first pick I think, but if they can't, my money is them acquiring a RW capable MacKinnon to play on a line with their two other lottery ranked picks.
Tampa Bay - Nickushkin. This is my slightly off the board pick. Yzerman has shown time and time again he's not afraid to play risky games with his 1sts. Connolly, Koekkoek, and Vasilevski all attest to that. Two injuries and the "Russian" factor that scares everyone.
Nashville - Drouin. No thought needed there.
Carolina - Barkov. Absolutely dominant in SM-liiga already. I can't see Carolina passing him up.
Calgary - Monahan. He represents about everything the Flames need: Size, centre, faceoffs, two-way talent.
Edmonton - Nurse. The rebuild up north continues with the Oilers finally realizing the need someone to play defence.
Buffalo - Lindholm. No the need of Buffalo's, but there's a decent from from Linholm to the next group. Wouldn't shock me if they traded down a few spots.
NJ - Ristolainen. Aging defence and their prospects outside Larsson aren't great.
Dallas - Wennberg. The departure of Morrow left a bit of a hole on their forwards. Wennberg in a few years could probably fill that void.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:59 AM   #51
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I am going to do 2. What I think will happen and what I want to happen.

What I want.

Lotto Winner
  • Calgary (duh)
Trade
  • 1st overall to Colorado for the 3rd overall, 32nd overall and a 2nd in 2014.
Draft
  1. Colorado - Seth Jones
  2. Florida - Nathan MacKinnon
  3. Calgary - Sasha Barkov
  4. Tampa Bay - Darnell Nurse
  5. Nashville - Jonathan Drouin
  6. Carolina - Val Nichushkin
  7. New Jersey (acquires pick from Edmonton for Anton Volchenkov, hey in Edmonton you just never know ) - Sean Monahan
  8. Buffalo - Elias Lindholm
  9. New Jersey - Rasmus Ristolainen
  10. Dallas - Adam Erne
Other Flames Picks
  • 1st Round - Frederk Gauthier (C), Madison Bowey (D)
  • 2nd Round - Ian McCoshen (D)
  • 3rd Round - Dillon Heatherington (D)
  • 4th Round - Ross Olsson (RW)
  • 5th Round - JC Lipon (C)
  • 6th Round - Justin Auger (RW)
  • 7th Round - Nicolas Beaudin (LW) - Just think it would be hilarious to draft another kid from Stanstead College after nabbing Janko from there last year.

What I think will happen
  • Florida - Seth Jones
  • Colorado - Jonathan Drouin
  • Tampa Bay - Nathan MacKinnon
  • Nashville - Sash Barkov
  • Carolina - Darnell Nurse
  • Calgary - Sean Monahan
  • Edmonton - Elias Lindholm
  • Buffalo - Val Nichushkin
  • New Jersey - Rasmus Ristolainen
  • Dallas - Adam Erne
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:48 AM   #52
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Here's a good article on NHL.com that has the chances of each team winning the lottery as well as how the lottery has affected previous drafts:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=668044
Interesting that Florida has won the draft lottery twice. Is that a sign that they probably won't win it this year? Also looks like 6th place has never won the lottery. I'm pretty confident that means the flames will win it.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:52 AM   #53
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Assuming order doesn't change (which is unlikely).
Florida - Mackinnon
Avs - Jones
T-bay - Barkov
Nashville - Nurse
Carolina - Drouin
Calgary - Lindholm
Edmonton - Pulock
Buffalo - Monahan

Some surprises
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:38 AM   #54
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I have said it before and I will say it again.

My biggest fear is Calgary taking Nishishkin (sp?).
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Nichuskin falls... hard
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For the Flames it comes down to Lindholm vs Monahan.

If they win the lottery it comes down to Seth Jones or trade down for Mackinnon.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:58 AM   #57
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Nichuskin falls... hard
After his comments, and then a very mediocre World Under 18s, I think he could fall into the teens - maybe even the mid teens.
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Assuming order doesn't change (which is unlikely).
Florida - Mackinnon
Avs - Jones
T-bay - Barkov
Nashville - Nurse
Carolina - Drouin
Calgary - Lindholm
Edmonton - Pulock
Buffalo - Monahan

Some surprises
That is a really interesting player. have seen him placed in a couple top 10s and a couple almost 20 range. Seems like the kind of pick that shakes the order up a bit...which happens every draft.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:10 AM   #59
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Carolina wins lottery.

Carolina - Drouin
Florida - Barkov
Colorado - Jones
TampaBay - Nichuskin
Nashville - Lindholm
Calgary - MacKinnon

...

Was trying to think of a scenario where MacKinnon could fall to the 6th pick... but that's really more of a long shot than the Flames' 6.2% chance to win the lottery.

My pecking order for picks if I'm Feaster going into the draft:
MacKinnon, Barkov, Monahan, Lindholm - take who's ever left when you go up to the podium. If none of these guys are left, kick yourself for not trading up. (Though I guess if they're picking 6th and all of these guys are gone it means we probably get Drouin, so odds of that is even slimmer, we should get one of those last 3 on the list)

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Assuming order doesn't change (which is unlikely).
Florida - Mackinnon
Avs - Jones
T-bay - Barkov
Nashville - Nurse
Carolina - Drouin
Calgary - Lindholm
Edmonton - Pulock
Buffalo - Monahan

Some surprises
If Drouin falls to Carolina, I see them taking him for sure. If he's already gone, Carolina's may take a chance on Nichushkin with Jersey and Philly the only two other non-playoff teams that I think risk drafting him.

For Calgary, the chance at Monahan or Lindholm is awesome (unless somehow Barkov slips to 6th).
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