RCMP preparing to give FBI and DEA authority to arrest Canadians in Canada.

[Plett25]

Is the agreement reciprocal? Can the RCMP enter the US and arrest Americans on American soil?

If so, there's nothing to worry about because Republicans would never allow such an agreement to be implemented.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

It seems apparent this is about co-operating on border area policing.

It doesn't seem to be about an FBI agent operating 500 miles from the USA border or an RCMP officer working in Alabama.

It looks like it would be tightly confined to a specific purpose.

You'd have to see the details to make a final judgement, but I didn't see anything in the articles that would bother me too much.

Cowperson

That's what I'm taking from it. It's not like FBI agents are going to be picking off Canadians left right and centre. This makes sense to give both sides more flexibility in doing their work across borders. We're pretty close next door neighbours after all.

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by Addick

This goes against everything I've learned about police from TV shows. Local police hate it when the Feds pull jurisdiction on them, imagine how Nash Bridges would feel if Feds from another country took his perp!

Roscoe and Cletus couldn't even follow the Duke boys into Chickasaw County

[Byrns]

Spoiler!

[NuclearPizzaMan]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I desperately want to hear Mikey the Redneck's take on this.

North American Union Amero currency police state!!!!

[GGG]

I am okay with it if as the article outlines they are acting as agents of the Canadian government and subject to all Canadian law enforcement rules and regs. And as stated in the article that an extridition request is still required to move any criminals back to the US. I would also want this agreement to be reciprocal.

I think this makes joint operations much easier to carry out. I don't see this as a risk to our sovernty as we still have agents of our country performing all of our arrests. This would only be a risk to sovereignty if we allowed the americans to come in and apply there laws and extradite people without warrent.

In the end there will be no difference between an american officer arresting you in Canada and a Canadian officer arressting you in Canada.

[Displaced Flames fan]

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[topfiverecords]

This is all just a plot to get more officers into our Tim Hortons locations.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Thankfully only 2 more years and the CPC will not be back in power for another 20 years+. I'm glad I'm patient and can wait it out thankfully, but how can anyone defend the CPC? Someone tell me all the great things they've done.

Rabble rabble rabble!!!!

It's truly entertaining the way you carry on, and your declarations of the demise of the Cons is equally amusing.

If you read the article in question, and it's clear you did not, this has little to do with the evil gun toting boogeymen you declare the CPC to be, but everything to do with the RCMP requesting this type of agreement in an effort to keep Canada safer....and only along the border.

Why not let blind partisanship get in the way however, it's way more fun to quote long dead polymath in regards to something that applies little to what is actually occurring.

[HerbalMagic]

what the actual #####...is this real life? In what world is having US agents being able to arrest Canadians on Canadian soil a good idea?

[Azure]

We need more details on this before everyone jumps to a huge conclusion. Oh wait, they already did.

Either way, I strongly disagree with the stupid American war on drugs, so I'm not sure how this is a good idea. Then again, Canada seems to go in the same direction with mandatory sentencing, so I'm not surprised.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

It seems apparent this is about co-operating on border area policing.

It doesn't seem to be about an FBI agent operating 500 miles from the USA border or an RCMP officer working in Alabama.

It looks like it would be tightly confined to a specific purpose.

You'd have to see the details to make a final judgement, but I didn't see anything in the articles that would bother me too much.

Cowperson

Yeah, that was somewhat my feeling after reading the article. My first reaction was pretty much "Awww EFF that" but I could see circumstances where having a cross-border enforcement policy on the books could come in handy.

For example, if the FBI have been working a human smuggling case for several years, and the opportunity comes to make an arrest in the case in Canada, I think it would be beneficial for the specific FBI agents who have been working the case to be able to cross into Canada, act as deputized agents of the RCMP, under RCMP supervision, and participate in the arrest. Being able to access that expertise on a particular case could be invaluable, as opposed to simply sending information.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Why not let blind partisanship get in the way however, it's way more fun to quote long dead polymath in regards to something that applies little to what is actually occurring.

Coming from you dude, thats ####ing hilarious.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by HerbalMagic

what the actual #####...is this real life? In what world is having US agents being able to arrest Canadians on Canadian soil a good idea?

Its been ongoing for a while now in the waterways around the country, this is just to move it on to land.

I agree it has to be a very clear and concrete set of parameters when it comes down to it, and as mentioned in the article, the hosting country would be the one overseeing everything and their laws woud be applied. This is nothing more than an effort to try and keep Canada safer and in turn more sovereign as alluded to by the Chief Superintedent of the RCMP.

“From my perspective, the more ability we have to control our borders, I would say that’s actually strengthened sovereignty, as opposed to weakened it...if I have fewer tools to help me better protect our border, then can you say that you’re controlling it?”

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Coming from you dude, thats ####ing hilarious.

Glad I could amuse you...now please address what I brought up.

[dammage79]

A big no from me as well. Unless they are in a joint task force working on anti-terrorism or anti-gang units, there is absolutely no need for foreign authorities to come across the border and have carte blanche on canadian citizens.

[gargamel]

How else are they supposed to stop the Swayze Train?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dammage79

A big no from me as well. Unless they are in a joint task force working on anti-terrorism or anti-gang units, there is absolutely no need for foreign authorities to come across the border and have carte blanche on canadian citizens.

Again...it wouldnt be carte blanche whatsoever.

Its a joint task force that would see specific targets taken down and under the oversight of the Canadian authorities.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Glad I could amuse you...now please address what I brought up.

Whats wrong with this, though, to give you an answer, is that this will not be equal. We (the RCMP), will never be allowed to do the same things the Americans will be able to do here. If an RCMP officier arrests a US Citizen, I'd imagine there might one (or several million) Americans who would have a huge problem with that.

Also, whose laws apply? If something is illegal in Canada, can a FBI agent really have the right to arrest and detain that person? It's not even their jurisdiction. We this we are in effect giving jurisdiction to a foreign government. Does that seem right to you?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by driveway

Yeah, that was somewhat my feeling after reading the article. My first reaction was pretty much "Awww EFF that" but I could see circumstances where having a cross-border enforcement policy on the books could come in handy.

For example, if the FBI have been working a human smuggling case for several years, and the opportunity comes to make an arrest in the case in Canada, I think it would be beneficial for the specific FBI agents who have been working the case to be able to cross into Canada, act as deputized agents of the RCMP, under RCMP supervision, and participate in the arrest. Being able to access that expertise on a particular case could be invaluable, as opposed to simply sending information.

If they're going to be working and supervised by the RCMP, isnt this what we already have? Or is it simply a matter of normally turning this over to the RCMP as opposed to being able to follow it through?

It seems to be that this is a minor adjustment to the already existing system that may or not actually need to be made.

Not to mention, Canada? Seriously? I think if they want to stem a lot of their problems their attention should probably be turned south....