[News] Mark Cundari recalled

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

With 5 games left, probably depending on how bad the break is, but there's no point in rushing him back either. I think we thank Wideman for a really good season and let him get an early start on the off season.

I'm looking forward to seeing if this kid is as much of a jerk and poop disturber as his reputation says.

There's really no point in lying to the guy...

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Ark2

There's really no point in lying to the guy...

I don't know, on pace for 11 goals and 41 points if this were a full season. Seems to be exactly what we brought him here to do.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Butler in so no Babchuk?

How is The Anton supposed to fulfill Feaster's point prediction then?

Well either Babchuk or Cundari play.

[browna]

"In honor of Kiprusoff's last game, the Flames are pleased to provide a roster worse than the Nov 20 2003 one he had in front of him in his debut."

So, 2-1 win just like that night?

[Northendzone]

whoever gets the jjersey off of Cundari's back may be getting a call from the Hockey Hall of Fame as they may want it for thier collection.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

If the Flames take a lead in this one I hope they have the good sense to put The Anton out there until that is corrected.
The Anton is our best bet for a higher pick.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I don't know, on pace for 11 goals and 41 points if this were a full season. Seems to be exactly what we brought him here to do.

So he didn't have a really good season just an average one

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

So he didn't have a really good season just an average one

If you consider 41 pts for a D-man average, then sure. Right now he's top 20 in D-man points, 3 points from being top 10. Maybe you and I have different definitions of average.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

If Cundari plays anything like he played down here, you guys are going to love him.

[AC]

Originally Posted by devo22

it seems Butler is in tonight.

Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg
Hartley confirms Butler is good to play tonight. Cundari likely debuts Sunday in Minnesota. #Flames

If Cundari was an emergency recall to replace Wideman, doesn't he have to play? If he was recalled to replaced Butler officially, doesn't he have to be sent back down if Butler is suddenly able to play?

[devo22]

Originally Posted by AC

If Cundari was an emergency recall to replace Wideman, doesn't he have to play? If he was recalled to replaced Butler officially, doesn't he have to be sent back down if Butler is suddenly able to play?

honestly, I don't know how it works exactly. But IIRC the Flames have only used 3 of the 4 free call-ups ... so given that the Heat season ends tomorrow, they could just make Cundari the 4th one anyway. After tomorrow, they are free to recall whoever they want.

[Badgers Nose]

I predict Cundari will destroy someone tonight.

This guy has a killer instinct and chip on his shoulder. I can't wait to see this.

[edit] steinberg just ruined my friday night

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

If you consider 41 pts for a D-man average, then sure. Right now he's top 20 in D-man points, 3 points from being top 10. Maybe you and I have different definitions of average.

Phaneuf puts up those kinds of numbers and this board is all over him. Wideman puts them up and it is a "great season"? Interesting ideas here.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Phaneuf puts up those kinds of numbers and this board is all over him. Wideman puts them up and it is a "great season"? Interesting ideas here.

well ya, he makes less than The Dion, and he isnt the captain. fine call it a "good" season, if "great" doesnt sit well with you.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Phaneuf puts up those kinds of numbers and this board is all over him. Wideman puts them up and it is a "great season"? Interesting ideas here.

I presume the board is all over Dion so they can justify the crap return they got for him. Dion is top 5 in scoring for a D. Not his fault that Toronto keeps putting him on the top pairing.

Wideman also had a good year for what he brings. He was brought in to get points and help the PP. He has done that, but posters want every one of our D-men to be "all world".

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

If you consider 41 pts for a D-man average, then sure. Right now he's top 20 in D-man points, 3 points from being top 10. Maybe you and I have different definitions of average.

That is not what I said. You said he was brought in and did what he expected. At $5.25M per season if all he did is what we expected is that a great season or an average one?

I agree you and I have a different definition of average in this case. Wideman earned his cap hit which is great but he certainly didn't exceed my expectations for a $5.25M per season Dman so I don't think he had a really great season

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by fotze

Ya but what about that play Wideman let that guy score. No other top defenceman make plays like that.

Wideman is a 2nd pairing d-man, and yes other 2nd pairing d-men make horrible plays.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

That is not what I said. You said he was brought in and did what he expected. At $5.25M per season if all he did is what we expected is that a great season or an average one?

I agree you and I have a different definition of average in this case. Wideman earned his cap hit which is great but he certainly didn't exceed my expectations for a $5.25M per season Dman so I don't think he had a really great season

This is a silly argument. At a salary cap of $5.25M, and with expectations of putting up 40+ points as a D-man, simply accomplishing that goal is having a great season, because it was expected that the season be great in the first place.

By your logic, Sidney Crosby can never have a "great" season, just average ones because he is paid and expected to be the best player in the league each year. Unless Sid demolishes the records book every year, we are going to say he had an average season?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

This is a silly argument. At a salary cap of $5.25M, and with expectations of putting up 40+ points as a D-man, simply accomplishing that goal is having a great season, because it was expected that the season be great in the first place.

By your logic, Sidney Crosby can never have a "great" season, just average ones because he is paid and expected to be the best player in the league each year. Unless Sid demolishes the records book every year, we are going to say he had an average season?

I see what you are saying but I think if Crosby scored 82pts in a season it wouldn't be considered great for him but for basically 99% of the league that is a fantastic season. He needs to be at the top of the league to have a great season by his standards and his expectations. It is not a silly arguement at all in my opinion.

So if a player lives up to his contract that is a great season? Sorry I don't agree. I guess if Wideman is in the top 20 for D scoring that is good considering he is 22 among Dmen in cap hits but his defensive play takes away from that so again he is living up to expecatations and had a average-good season by his standards. Not a great season.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

That is not what I said. You said he was brought in and did what he expected. At $5.25M per season if all he did is what we expected is that a great season or an average one?

I agree you and I have a different definition of average in this case. Wideman earned his cap hit which is great but he certainly didn't exceed my expectations for a $5.25M per season Dman so I don't think he had a really great season

So you're saying being top 20 in scoring among D-men is an average season in your mind?

So you also expected him to lead the Flames with 90 blocked shots or does that surprise you a little bit?