Brawl between parents at minor hockey game

[Tron_fdc]

I grew up playing in Okotoks so we had the pleasure of playing the reservation teams all the time. It was terrifying, they always seemed to have one guy that was rocking a full moustache at 12, and stood 6'-4" without skates on.

I was always concerned heading in except for one year when we had a team that was all goon all day, and we could go toe to toe with the thuggery. I can remember one game that featured fights in the stands, fights in the hallways, and fights on the ice. We were written up as a disgrace to Okotoks, had to change our name from the Okotoks Chiefs, and were told to stop emulating guys from Slapshot.

Our coach was a real piece of work that year. He had his nipple bit off in a bar fight at the Cecil a few years prior to taking up coaching, so it wasn't like he was all that upset at what we were doing.

Best year of hockey I ever played, which was coincidentally Bantam C. Looking back I can see how this happens. Guy on ice throws a cheapshot, parent yells at him calling him a POS, other parent in stands yells "that's my son so F you" and it's game on.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by fotze

I think more important than putting the kids in different things is being sure to leave times where they are in nothing. Way too much on the lessons and leagues and camps and crap. Not enough time dedicated to playing with a stick in the back yard.

I would be curious to see what percentage the WHL players did spring hockey or other types of stats like that.

Im going to say that 90% of the players that get drafted into the WHL this spring have played spring hockey, and likely closer to 98%. Every player in the projected top 100 has played spring hockey.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Im going to say that 90% of the players that get drafted into the WHL this spring have played spring hockey, and likely closer to 98%. Every player in the projected top 100 has played spring hockey.

What are your thoughts on that article I posted about Sutter and his thoughts.

I had an NHL scout tell a similair thing.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I grew up playing in Okotoks so we had the pleasure of playing the reservation teams all the time. It was terrifying, they always seemed to have one guy that was rocking a full moustache at 12, and stood 6'-4" without skates on.

I was always concerned heading in except for one year when we had a team that was all goon all day, and we could go toe to toe with the thuggery. I can remember one game that featured fights in the stands, fights in the hallways, and fights on the ice. We were written up as a disgrace to Okotoks, had to change our name from the Okotoks Chiefs, and were told to stop emulating guys from Slapshot.

Our coach was a real piece of work that year. He had his nipple bit off in a bar fight at the Cecil a few years prior to taking up coaching, so it wasn't like he was all that upset at what we were doing.

Best year of hockey I ever played, which was coincidentally Bantam C. Looking back I can see how this happens. Guy on ice throws a cheapshot, parent yells at him calling him a POS, other parent in stands yells "that's my son so F you" and it's game on.

The really is a cool story bro. Because it was a legit, cool story...... bro.

[Vulcan]

I was always concerned heading in except for one year when we had a team that was all goon all day, and we could go toe to toe with the thuggery. I can remember one game that featured fights in the stands, fights in the hallways, and fights on the ice. We were written up as a disgrace to Okotoks, had to change our name from the Okotoks Chiefs, and were told to stop emulating guys from Slapshot.

That sounds like the best part for 14 year olds.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by pylon

The really is a cool story bro. Because it was a legit, cool story...... bro.

Kainai Nation. I'll never forget that game until the day I die.

That was the same year we played Lomond, lost 14-0, but filled 2 1/2 scoresheets up with penalties. We were losing 8-0 after the first and my coach told us that this game was henceforth going to be our "do whatever the f--- you want game". He literally told us to go nuts, do whatever, and led us out of the dressing room yelling "stick em f--- em, let em know you're there!!!" We were all huge slapshot fans, so naturally our top line took the ice at the same time, skated around the rink, and all stooped at center ice simultaneously. The goonery ensued at that point.

Lomond was the #1 team in the league, but after that display they wouldn't play us again, including playoffs (which we obviously didn't make, but whatever).

I miss minor hockey like that sometimes.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

What are your thoughts on that article I posted about Sutter and his thoughts.

I had an NHL scout tell a similair thing.

I can't disagree with what he said, the part about the burn out is the most worrisome, you often see Junior aged players leaving the game. The game still has to be fun no matter what. I will bet that Red Deers first 6 draft picks, at least will be kids who played spring hockey. I will be following the WHL draft very close this year and be we'll see how Red Deer picks.

The part about being athletes is interesting. I believe and have seen first hand that the best hockey players could be some of the best in whatever sport they they choose, what kids are taught in hockey easily translates into other sports.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

I can't disagree with what he said, the part about the burn out is the most worrisome, you often see Junior aged players leaving the game. The game still has to be fun no matter what. I will bet that Red Deers first 6 draft picks, at least will be kids who played spring hockey. I will be following the WHL draft very close this year and be we'll see how Red Deer picks.

The part about being athletes is interesting. I believe and have seen first hand that the best hockey players could be some of the best in whatever sport they they choose, what kids are taught in hockey easily translates into other sports.

And what kids learn in other sports translates into Hockey.

Hopefully Hockey Alberta will gain some control of the srping teams.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

Kainai Nation. I'll never forget that game until the day I die.

That was the same year we played Lomond, lost 14-0, but filled 2 1/2 scoresheets up with penalties. We were losing 8-0 after the first and my coach told us that this game was henceforth going to be our "do whatever the f--- you want game". He literally told us to go nuts, do whatever, and led us out of the dressing room yelling "stick em f--- em, let em know you're there!!!" We were all huge slapshot fans, so naturally our top line took the ice at the same time, skated around the rink, and all stooped at center ice simultaneously. The goonery ensued at that point.

Lomond was the #1 team in the league, but after that display they wouldn't play us again, including playoffs (which we obviously didn't make, but whatever).

I miss minor hockey like that sometimes.

Curious as what age this was and how old are you now.

[dissentowner]

The guy in the white ball cap has no idea how to punch.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by fotze

I'm betting the UK isn't like that anymore.

My kid did spring hockey last year. I was too naive at the time to realize what was going on but the managers brought in ringers for a tournament I believe at our expense. Was ridiculous.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...189487451.html

Happens all the time, parents paying for their own kids only to be financing the ringers.

[T@T]

Meh, seen a lot worst, and a brawl is more than 2-3 people slugging it out IMO.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Curious as what age this was and how old are you now.

First year Bantam B or C I think? I'm 37 so that was a looooong time ago.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...189487451.html

Happens all the time, parents paying for their own kids only to be financing the ringers.

Disturbing article.

In line with my earlier post:

"It's the wild, wild west," Kagan adds. "There's no organizing body. There's no rules. And it's now considered by some parents the most important part of their hockey life. I can't think of a sport where most of the money, time and heartbreak is completely unregulated. This is capitalism at its best."
Kagan hesitates for moment.
"And its worst."

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

First year Bantam B or C I think? I'm 37 so that was a looooong time ago.

Well I'm 34 so I'm not far behind but I grew up around there and knew a lot of the Lomond, Enchant, Vauxhall kids. In my day Lomond kicked a lot of a$$ because of the Beagle boys.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

First year Bantam B or C I think? I'm 37 so that was a looooong time ago.

Yeah, I am the same age as you, and this parents brawling in the stands thing, wasn't that uncommon. We used to think it was completely awesome when the dads started kicking those big metal garbage cans around, and throwing hay makers, all over crappy PeeWee hockey.

But Old School dads were definitely a different breed. They were all old Man strengthy, looked 50 by today's standards when they were really in their mid 30's, and smelt like musty leather and Players Filter all the time. Think of 20 or so Ron Swansons watching a game, in crappy late 70's early 80's polyester suits. When I wander in to the Old Lake Bonavista Arena all those awesome old memories come back.

[HPLovecraft]

Three pages and still no South Park reference?

[CaptainCrunch]

Then as per tradition, they then took their kids to Chuck E Cheese and kicked each others a$$es between the pinball machine and the ball pit

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews...25-195444.html

[Hockeyguy15]

I loved hockey as a kid (still do), but it was nice to have some time off during the summer to be a kid and hang out with non-hockey playing friends. Finish up the year and then spend a month or 2 riding bikes, playing outside, playing street hockey, going camping and then a month or so before the season starts up again head to hockey school and get ready.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by fotze

Spring Hockey still allows that, goes to the end of June which coincides with school. The house hockey ends at the end of February/early march, seems premature.

What's house hockey?