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Old 03-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #41
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When I heard the skit on 960 this morning I was thinking we could offer 7 years 49 million. This is a huge overpayment.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:05 AM   #42
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Same cap hit as Eric Staal. Elite #1 Center on a team that wont spend to the cap.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:05 AM   #43
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Wow 8.25 AAV? I didn't know his name was Crosby.


Teams still finding ways to pay out ridiculous amounts of money.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:06 AM   #44
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If he was a winger, he wouldn't get this money.

But if you look around the league, it's a fair dollar amount.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:06 AM   #45
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You can, but on the UFA market, you usually have to overpay.

You supplement your core with UFA's, you don't start building around them.

Develop your team through the draft first, then supplement 1 or 2 pieces you are missing if you are close to winning.
The whole "build through the draft or UFA" argument is a little off target, I think. You build winning teams by acquiring players whose value on the ice exceeds their cost. The easiest way to do that is through the draft. The hardest way (at least for top end players) is free agency.

So your general point is accurate, but it argues a false absolute. When you look at the roster of any Cup winning team, there is a good mixture of own draft picks, astute trade acquisitions and free agents.

The real question here is whether Getzlaf would have been a good free agent signing at the cost. That is a question that applies equally to Calgary in the hypothetical as it does Anahiem in the practical.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:07 AM   #46
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According to @capgeek Getzlaf's $8.25M/yr ties him with Eric Staal, behind only Ovechkin, Malkin and Crosby for annual cap hit.
He's in that league, Better than Ovie and maybe Staal, maybe.
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The whole "build through the draft or UFA" argument is a little off target, I think. You build winning teams by acquiring players whose value on the ice exceeds their cost. The easiest way to do that is through the draft. The hardest way (at least for top end players) is free agency.

So your general point is accurate, but it argues a false absolute. When you look at the roster of any Cup winning team, there is a good mixture of own draft picks, astute trade acquisitions and free agents.

The real question here is whether Getzlaf would have been a good free agent signing at the cost. That is a question that applies equally to Calgary in the hypothetical as it does Anahiem in the practical.
Sure, I can't argue that. All teams have to supplement their weaknesses; I said build through the draft and not FA, not never sign a FA or never make a trade. The starting point to start building is the draft, thats all.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:10 AM   #48
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I think it's about exactly right for a centre of his calibre. Iginla was making $7 million per year for the past several seasons and is a less rare commodity given he is a winger. Then consider salary inflation since Iginla became a $7 milliion player, and $8.25 million doesn't seem too out of line for a 1st line centre in his prime. It's certainly better value than the contracts we offered to O'Reilly or Richards.
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Yeah poor them, they have an elite #1 center locked up through his prime.
He's having a good season so far but don't forget last year he had 11 goals, the previous two seasons he ended up with 19 goals each.
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Wow... 12% of their cap on one player. He didn't take a discount, that's for sure.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:13 AM   #51
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http://blair-necessities.blogspot.ca...extension.html

Saskatchewan Roughriders and receiver Chris Getzlaf have agreed on a three year contract extension. The deal is said to be worth in the neighbourhood of 120-thousand a year.
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He's having a good season so far but don't forget last year he had 11 goals, the previous two seasons he ended up with 19 goals each.
In his 19 goal year he had 76 points in 67 games, and year before that 69 points in 66 games.

Last year was his really only bad year. He's a playmaking center that makes the guys on his wings a lot better, and in playoffs his play doesn't fade. Very big reason Perry hit the 50 goal mark

Getz is an elite #1 center.
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He's having a good season so far but don't forget last year he had 11 goals, the previous two seasons he ended up with 19 goals each.
Goals aren't everything.

He makes everyone around him better, is solid defensively and produces over a point per game.
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Man that's an overpayment IMO
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:15 AM   #55
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Probably used Eric Staal as a comparison. Big, elite #1C, also being the captain.
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We just wanna make the woooooooooooooorld dance! It's all about the priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice tag!
Stop.
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So what you're saying is that Perry is available?
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:17 AM   #58
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Stop.
Edited it. No idea why i thought that would be funny. But honestly, would you pay Getzlaf $8.25 mill?
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Overpayment but I guess that's what it had to take to keep him.
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Yeah poor them, they have an elite #1 center locked up through his prime.
no kidding...what were you guys expecting? 8 years is long but obviously that was their advantage over other teams
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