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View Poll Results: Should Jay Feaster be fired?
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Yes he's the head of the hockey department
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No one of his reports are in charge of details like this
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No the offers sheet wasn't effective so no loss to the team
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03-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Yes. It is incredibly negligent and stupid. To potentially lose our draft picks for nothing is unforgivable, especially with a cupboard as bare as ours.
Also, if it officially came from the league, I'd like to see a link in the OP. So far, I have only seen twitter speculation.
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Why would the league come out with an official report about something that didn't happen?
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03-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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#42
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Rhettzky
Just so I get this straight, we would have lost our first and third pick and then lost O'Reilly to entry waivers? I'm a little confused.
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In a summary yes, to play O'Reilly this year the Flames would have given up their first and thrid pick as RFA compensation... paid $2.5 million as a signing bonus to O'Reilly, then put him on waivers were he almost certainley would have been claimed.
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03-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Rhettzky
Just so I get this straight, we would have lost our first and third pick and then lost O'Reilly to entry waivers? I'm a little confused.
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Either that, or:
The Flames convince O'Reilly to sit out the rest of the season and suspend him, and he just plays for us next year for a whopping ~$9,000,000+
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03-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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#44
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Igster
Sure...but you were already there before this.  |
I thought he was doing a bad job before this but this is incomprehensibly inept.
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03-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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#45
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Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
Fire Feaster, hire Brian Burke
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I know a lot of people hate Burke, but i think this would be the best thing for the organization.
If Burke was hired that means he will have gotten through to ownership that the team needs to be rebuilt.
Other than the Kessel fiasco, the man wins trades. I would love to have him going into the trade deadline to get as much back as he could for our veterans.
That said i highly doubt the flames would even consider him. If Feaster is fired look for another GM that wants to stay the course with the " win now" mandate.
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03-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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#46
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Originally Posted by DionTheDman
Burke is a media whore, but can be an excellent GM... then again, Toronto didn't do much during his tenure there.
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I only see 2 mistakes made by Burke... the Kessel trade (which is obviously huge, but still), and his loyalty to his coach.
But he is a good GM...
So long as he doesn't do a Kessel 2.0 trade.
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03-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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#47
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Worst case they would have lost the picks and kept him out until next year
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03-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Woah. Just caught this.
So what does that mean for Colorado? Do they have to let him sit or can they play him without putting him on waivers? Strange rule.
But a MAJOR bullet dodged.
Within the Flames management I'd like to know who's responsibility it is to know the ins and outs of the CBA to catch this stuff.
The buck stop at the GM but also whoever the CBA Guy is within that management group.
Yikes.
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Apparently last year, it would have meant that he would have had to go through waivers even to play for the Avs, but that was changed for the new CBA which now allows for a team to sign their own RFAs at any time.
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03-01-2013, 11:23 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
So what does that mean for Colorado? Do they have to let him sit or can they play him without putting him on waivers? Strange rule.
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
What's fascinating is that a change in the new CBA is all that separated COL from having to put O'Reilly on waivers now to get him in lineup
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
In old CBA, 13:23 specified any player who plays in Europe after start of NHL reg season needs waivers playing in same season in NHL.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
But article 13 of recent MOU, says following: All players on a Club's Reserve List and RFA list will be exempt from application of 13:23...
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
In other words, in this new CBA, team can sign one of its own RFAs or draft picks out of Europe in mid-season and get in lineup w/o waivers.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
When I first saw CGY would've had to put ROR on waivers, first thought was: So does COL. But new application of 13:23 in new CBA saves Avs.
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03-01-2013, 11:23 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Whats with the Burke love?
His Vancouver team was crap (outside of drafting both Sedins). He inherited the champion Ducks team. He blew with Toronto.
He is not a good GM.
Last edited by polak; 03-01-2013 at 11:28 AM.
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03-01-2013, 11:23 AM
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#51
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Calgary Flames - it's only until you've lost everything that you're free to do anything.
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03-01-2013, 11:24 AM
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#52
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yeah I'd dump this clown show from Ken Kling on down to Feaster. If they've lost confidence in Feaster then he needs to be moved now. We are at a critical juncture in the state of this organization and we need hockey people who understand rebuilding and what it takes to build a contender. Every day that this mockery of hockey management stays on the deeper the grooves it sets for this team.
Tear the walls down.
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03-01-2013, 11:24 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Worst case they would have lost the picks and kept him out until next year
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How do they do that? It says that he would have pass through waivers to even be loaned anywhere.
The NHLPA would protest for sure if the Flames tried to keep a member from playing this year (and rightfully so).
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03-01-2013, 11:24 AM
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#54
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by malcolmk14
Either that, or:
The Flames convince O'Reilly to sit out the rest of the season and suspend him, and he just plays for us next year for a whopping ~$9,000,000+
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Could they have even done that? What would be the justification for suspending him?
Just a monumental disaster barely averted.
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03-01-2013, 11:25 AM
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#55
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I'm chomping at the bit to hear what Feaster has to say.
Even with his gift for gab, he's going to have a tough time spin doctoring this blunder.
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03-01-2013, 11:25 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
I only see 2 mistakes made by Burke... the Kessel trade (which is obviously huge, but still), and his loyalty to his coach.
But he is a good GM...
So long as he doesn't do a Kessel 2.0 trade.
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I don't think he would. He learned a valuable lesson, that when rebuilding you don't rush it.
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03-01-2013, 11:25 AM
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#57
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Still no official word from the Flames...
Will the team even acknowledge it?
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03-01-2013, 11:26 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Could they have even done that? What would be the justification for suspending him?
Just a monumental disaster barely averted.
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Well you would have convince O'Reilly not to report and then suspend him for not reporting.
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03-01-2013, 11:26 AM
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#59
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Yes he should, and if he does, it's likely he never gets another GM job in the NHL.
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03-01-2013, 11:27 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Still no official word from the Flames...
Will the team even acknowledge it?
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They are going to have to, local media will be all over them.
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