Tough Stretch to mean the season (excel file attached)

[Perogy Man]

This exercise is like predicting when a grenade is going to explode that has been tossed your way. They could end the season with a 9 game winning streak.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Heck, maybe even a 30 game winning streak!!1!

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Even if you're right and the schedules compare, the big difference is the teams you name get to be the teams you name and not the Flames in the games that are played.

Big variable.

I'd take the same schedule against the Kings instead of the Flames and not come out 2-5-2. More likely 4-2-2 or something

...

So basically you're admitting that your original post was a pointless convoluted way for you to make a "Flames Suck" post and really had nothing at all to do with the schedule?

Really, none of those other teams have done much better then Calgary they're bubble teams not world beaters.

[Loyal and True]

Assuming we don't suffer any more key injuries...

Calgary can win next 3 games (@Col, then home vs Vcr and SJ). Vcr is in a mini-slump and will be playing a BTB after Saturday night vs LA. SJ also a bit of a slump and will be playing BTB after Tues night @ Vcr.

Then Cgy guts out a 2-2-1 record in next 5. Lose in OT to ducks. Lose BTB @LA. Win once in LA. Then split 2 home games vs. Det and Nsh.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Sakari

Yes, the Hawks are soooo scary, 17 shots to 47, just.. terrifying!

My point is that no matter where a team is in the standings, we have an equal chance of beating them. And I damn well know people are going to hate on me. But if we bring our best game to a team like Anahiem, we'll win, or come VERY close to the 2 points. If we bring our best game to a team like Columbus, IMO, the same goes. If we decide to play half ass hockey, against ANY team, without Kipper, we're completely screwed. I think last night proved that. Sure, Macdonald wasn't bad, but man does he give up HUGE rebounds. If we show a resounding sense of urgency in all of our next games, we will come out with an above .500 record. I guarantee it. That's how the game works, folks.

So your saying any team can beat any team? So if we out together a team from CP we could beat the hawks as long as we "try hard and give it 100%?"

Lol awesome!

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Sakari

Yes, the Hawks are soooo scary, 17 shots to 47, just.. terrifying!

My point is that no matter where a team is in the standings, we have an equal chance of beating them. And I damn well know people are going to hate on me. But if we bring our best game to a team like Anahiem, we'll win, or come VERY close to the 2 points. If we bring our best game to a team like Columbus, IMO, the same goes. If we decide to play half ass hockey, against ANY team, without Kipper, we're completely screwed. I think last night proved that. Sure, Macdonald wasn't bad, but man does he give up HUGE rebounds. If we show a resounding sense of urgency in all of our next games, we will come out with an above .500 record. I guarantee it. That's how the game works, folks.

This is all true but historically the Flames tend to wilt when things are on the line. Anytime they have had a chance to get above .500 they fail. Anytime there is a must win game they decide to take the night off. I think realistically they could even take the night off against Colorado again, they did once already. It's hard to predict anything for this team because we never know if they are going to show up.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Parallex

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So basically you're admitting that your original post was a pointless convoluted way for you to make a "Flames Suck" post and really had nothing at all to do with the schedule?

Really, none of those other teams have done much better then Calgary they're bubble teams not world beaters.

No basically you're putting words in my mouth.

I pointed out that the Flames wins have come against teams with a sub .500 record on average, and that they are about to go through a stretch where that average will be closer to .600

seemed like a concern to me.

you point out that other teams have tough schedules and I returned with the fact that I'd rather be the LA Kings (coming on) then the Flames to encounter that schedule.

If you want to get childish about it go for it. The CBA has been signed. Move on.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Poe969

So your saying any team can beat any team? So if we out together a team from CP we could beat the hawks as long as we "try hard and give it 100%?"

Lol awesome!

Go cheer for the leafs.. I can't read any threads on this forum anymore without a debbie downer post from you (half witted at that).

Yes, any NHL team can beat any NHL team. It's called a cap system and it's working to perfection. 4 points separates 5th from 13th. The 12th place Flames came the closest of any team to handing Chicago their first regulation loss.

[Flashpoint]

Thanks for doing this again Bingo. I love these spreadsheets.

Even if lately they always leave me weeping. 3-5-1 for 4.62

Standing Death for Seth?

Or

Getting Boned for Jones?

[Bingo]

I do this not to be negative or burst people's bubbles ... everyone is allowed to be as positive as they want to be.

I just desperately want this team to get out of this funk they've been in for 5 years. It was clear to me in April of 2007 that the team wasn't good enough to compete with the core they had on the ice. (year they lost to the Wings)

They muddled through and lost a 7 gamer to the Sharks and a 6 gamer to the Hawks the next two years, and then out for three.

Teams are making bold moves to position themselves every year, and the Flames just keep tinkering with a flawed product.

This schedule to me says the season could effectively be over on March 15th, ... and I'd rather have that then bubble to the end and finish 10th. I see it as not the best scenario, but a decent second best scenario.

I just hope the ownership group have excel on their laptops

[blankall]

Really like how this schedule works out with the tough part just before the deadline. Won't create a false sense of optimism. The team will be shown for what it truly is, a winner set for a playoff run or a loser that needs to unload.

That being said, the Flames will surprise many here:

5-2-2 over the next 9. Don't bother stocking up on razors, becuase this team is going to the playoffs.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I do this not to be negative or burst people's bubbles ... everyone is allowed to be as positive as they want to be.

I just desperately want this team to get out of this funk they've been in for 5 years. It was clear to me in April of 2007 that the team wasn't good enough to compete with the core they had on the ice. (year they lost to the Wings)

They muddled through and lost a 7 gamer to the Sharks and a 6 gamer to the Hawks the next two years, and then out for three.

Teams are making bold moves to position themselves every year, and the Flames just keep tinkering with a flawed product.

This schedule to me says the season could effectively be over on March 15th, ... and I'd rather have that then bubble to the end and finish 10th. I see it as not the best scenario, but a decent second best scenario.

I just hope the ownership group have excel on their laptops

You know you aren't alone as while you aren't as vocal about it as some of us the current problems have been ongoing for years and fans see it, media sees it, other teams see it but the Flames ownership doesn't and it's extremely frustrating as a proud fan to be dragged into a situation of cheering for a team that has turned into one of the laughing stocks of the league as our team for different reasons is viewed in the same light as the Oilers and Islanders.

[Street Pharmacist]

5-2-2

[djsFlames]

You know what all this means right??


It means they're gonna end up going 7-2 and drive all you folks mad.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Go cheer for the leafs.. I can't read any threads on this forum anymore without a debbie downer post from you (half witted at that).

Yes, any NHL team can beat any NHL team. It's called a cap system and it's working to perfection. 4 points separates 5th from 13th. The 12th place Flames came the closest of any team to handing Chicago their first regulation loss.

lol. Any team can beat any team, heck, the BJ's could still win the cup but the odds of those things happening aren't that good. Just because there is a cap system in place doesn't mean every team is equal. Team management is just as important as anything. Teams like the Hawks dont' have the max amount of contracts or many (if any) over paid players righ tnow. And just because a team beats a top team, doesn't mean they'll be able to keep winning. You can call it a "debbie downer" post, I'll call it a realistic post, like the ones I've made the past 3 years.

If you can't see the difference between teams that are going to be successfull and the teams that aren't than you need to watch more and pay closer attention

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Poe969

lol. Any team can beat any team, heck, the BJ's could still win the cup but the odds of those things happening aren't that good. Just because there is a cap system in place doesn't mean every team is equal. Team management is just as important as anything. Teams like the Hawks dont' have the max amount of contracts or many (if any) over paid players righ tnow. And just because a team beats a top team, doesn't mean they'll be able to keep winning. You can call it a "debbie downer" post, I'll call it a realistic post, like the ones I've made the past 3 years.

If you can't see the difference between teams that are going to be successfull and the teams that aren't than you need to watch more and pay closer attention

Hard to get this simple point across.. Hmm let me rephrase then. Any team can BEAT any team. Did I say any team can finish higher in the standings than any team? No I didn't so please don't put words in my mouth. There are no clear juggernaut teams that can guarantee a win against a lower ranked team. The same cannot be said for NFL, MLB or NBA.

I suppose it's also realistic that the 14th place Av's will beat the 12th place Flames. Have you ever predicted a flames win? Oh but congratulations on your 3 years of posting

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Thanks for doing this again Bingo. I love these spreadsheets.

Even if lately they always leave me weeping. 3-5-1 for 4.62

Standing Death for Seth?

Or

Getting Boned for Jones?

Eat loam for Lindholm.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Hard to get this simple point across.. Hmm let me rephrase then. Any team can BEAT any team. Did I say any team can finish higher in the standings than any team? No I didn't so please don't put words in my mouth. There are no clear juggernaut teams that can guarantee a win against a lower ranked team. The same cannot be said for NFL, MLB or NBA.

I suppose it's also realistic that the 14th place Av's will beat the 12th place Flames. Have you ever predicted a flames win? Oh but congratulations on your 3 years of posting

I hate the leafs, I hope they finish in 9th unless we end up with their first rounder this year somehow, then I hope they plummet. After watching this team for as long as I have, and noticing how they play when games really matter, it's hard to predict a win. They've played a few good games in a row and I think they'll be out of steam. I'm not going to hope for the Avs to win but at this point I'm not dissapointed if the Flames lose. I'm not going to sit here and predict them to win every game because I (like most people who filled out the spread sheet Bingo made) are predicting that the Flames lose more then they win in the next few games.

I'm not the only one who is predicting the Flames to lose tonight, so maybe you should say something to everyone about it. If you don't want to hear what most realists are saying about the Flames, there is an "I believe" thread you can go into and praise them.

I didn't say they'd lose every game from here on out, I just don't think they're going to do well.

[Hatter]

I have them going 3-3-3.

Wins: Colorado, LA, Detroit
Losses: Vancouver, Anaheim, LA
OTL: Minnesota (Complete), San Jose, Nashville

Need 11-5-6 after that. 28/44 points for 0.636. Seems possible but unlikely. Love to be proven wrong!

[GGG]

4-3-2

Col,LA,Nsh,Det
LA,SJ, Van
Min, Ana