To all you Trade Iginla Individuals

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I also suspect a sizeable portion of the people who want him traded are made up of younger fans that just want something new to play with.

Personally, when I think about all the times he could of left us for greener pastures and bigger contracts on teams with better chances of winning - only to stay and re-sign here for less - it make me sad to see so many people turning on him now that he's getting older and not able to play like he once did. He stuck with us, why can't we stick with him?

I would think the opposite for the bolded part. I have been a fan since the days of the Corral. I have seen many of my (at the time) favourite hockey players go. It sucks but you move on. This team needs a new direction and it's time for Iggy to try and win a cup elsewhere.

[Salt Water Cowboy #10]

I don't want Iginla traded. Who would be captain? What " direction" would the Flames be going if he was traded? What are the chances they actually get a decent return for him. Just by trading doesn't guarantee that we will have the iggy of the future as a #1 pick or returned propect/player. It's a huge gamble at this point. I'd rather see other players traded for high picks before Iginla.

That being said, if he wants to go, or if an obvious trade for good talent is there as a return, then Ok. But do people think that wade simmonds is going to be worth getting rid of Iginla? Maybe if we could get a pick that would land us McKinnon or an obvious future star. But I think what many are talking about equates to a gamble, or just a worse team in the future.

The next 4 years with Iginla will be better than having a team with no leader and hoping for things to turn around.

[FlamesAddiction]

I'm not against trading Iginla, in fact I think we should have a couple of seasons ago.

I am against trading him for just anything though. If it's for a low percentage crap shoot, then I'd rather see him retire a Flame. I don't believe for a second that it would be addition by subtraction or that keeping him somehow impedes a rebuild.

[WessThompson]

must...trade...

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Salt Water Cowboy #10

I don't want Iginla traded. Who would be captain? What " direction" would the Flames be going if he was traded? What are the chances they actually get a decent return for him. Just by trading doesn't guarantee that we will have the iggy of the future as a #1 pick or returned propect/player. It's a huge gamble at this point. I'd rather see other players traded for high picks before Iginla.

That being said, if he wants to go, or if an obvious trade for good talent is there as a return, then Ok. But do people think that wade simmonds is going to be worth getting rid of Iginla? Maybe if we could get a pick that would land us McKinnon or an obvious future star. But I think what many are talking about equates to a gamble, or just a worse team in the future.

The next 4 years with Iginla will be better than having a team with no leader and hoping for things to turn around.

1. They would be going in a direction that doesn't see a 35 year old winger as the best player and primary offensive option on the team.

2. The next best leader on the team would be captain. We may not have a captain for a year or two. We're not lifting the cup in that span, so there's no rush.

3. Trading iginla to get his replacement is not really an option at this point. You trade him to get some value back, and change the team's culture. You can't let him go for nothing, and he isn't going to re-sign to play on a team with one natural center.

4. We are going to be bad for a while. With or without Iggy. Since we know that having Iggy as our best player has left us out of the playoffs for three years, going to be four, I would say it's clear that with or without him, it can't get a whole lot worse.

5. We're going to have a look at a top five pick this year, especially if we sell at deadline; the assets should be in place to draft a true franchise impacting center in June, and shedding extra salary allows the team to make a run at Getzlaf if he's available. And do you want four more years of Iggy, or seven years of Getzlaf?

Look, we all realize it sucks. Breaking up is hard to do. But if your relationship hasn't been working for three years, do you want to spend another three or four hoping it works out, or would you rather cut bait and get on with your life?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not against trading Iginla, in fact I think we should have a couple of seasons ago.

I am against trading him for just anything though. If it's for a low percentage crap shoot, then I'd rather see him retire a Flame. I don't believe for a second that it would be addition by subtraction or that keeping him somehow impedes a rebuild.

It impedes the rebuild if we lose him for nothing. Because you're right, at this point he does nothing to make the team that much more competitive than any other top six winger. If hockey had a WAR stat, his would be maybe two at this point? Probably lower.

But if he says he'll waive at the deadline, he has to be gone. You cannot risk letting him walk away and get nothing back. It's irresponsible, and as much as I like the job feaster is doing with the prospects etc, if this were to happen, it's a fireable offence.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Salt Water Cowboy #10

I don't want Iginla traded. Who would be captain? What " direction" would the Flames be going if he was traded?

Hopefully up, there is not much room to go the other way.

[DoNotCompute]

Boy, you sure told us!!

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I also suspect a sizeable portion of the people who want him traded are made up of younger fans that just want something new to play with.

Nope. Long-time fan here who long ago stopped becoming attached to particular players and cares more about the jersey than who wears it. And I've watched enough hockey to recognize a team that has very little chance of accomplishing much over the next couple seasons, so it's all about building for the future at this point. Iginla's value to the franchise right now is what kind of long-term assets he can bring in, not some sort of misty-eyed reverence for what he's done for the team in the past. This franchise is far too asset-poor to let that kind of sentimentality influence our hockey decisions.

[Henry Fool]

I don't think the current situation is fair for either the team or Iginla. It really is like a stale relationship which neither party is able to end even though they should.

It's not cold and calculating to say this aloud. I think continuing on the current path of failure and mediocrity is humiliating for both. Iginla should look for a chance to do something positive late in his career and the Flames should admit that they're not very good and start concentrating on the future.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

I don't think the current situation is fair for either the team or Iginla. It really is like a stale relationship which neither party is able to end even though they should.

It's not cold and calculating to say this aloud. I think continuing on the current path of failure and mediocrity is humiliating for both. Iginla should look for a chance to do something positive late in his career and the Flames should admit that they're not very good and start concentrating on the future.

Last game Iggy held up on at least three hits. That just isn't like the iggy of old

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Last game Iggy held up on at least three hits. That just isn't like the iggy of old

I'd love to see what he could do on a good team. He's a player, not the team mascot. What purpose would it serve to keep doing the same depressing thing until he's too old to play? The idea of him retiring a Flame after let's say 7 straight years of no playoffs is simply depressing.

[Mike Vernon]

Originally Posted by polak

How many hotdogs could fit into that mouth at once?!

How many sausages??

[troutman]

3 years ago today, Jarome Iginla dished the puck off to Sidney Crosby and the Golden Goal was scored ~ http://youtu.be/4yeiWaXkJSo

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Mike Vernon

How many hotdogs could fit into that mouth at once?!

How many sausages??

Why would you even consider the possibility of more than one?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by troutman

3 years ago today, Jarome Iginla dished the puck off to Sidney Crosby and the Golden Goal was scored ~ http://youtu.be/4yeiWaXkJSo

So you're saying his value probably peaked three years ago?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why would you even consider the possibility of more than one?

Because Mike Vernon likes to party?

[Howie_16]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It impedes the rebuild if we lose him for nothing.

First off, I am in the "DO NOT TRADE IGGY!" camp. Players that play their entire career with one team are rare, and I have my doubts that the Flames have ever been offered a significant package of players and picks that Sutter or Feaster should have accepted. Iginla should already have won a Cup here in Calgary and his two Olympic gold medals ensure automatic entry into the Hall of Fame. I would be much more open to trading Kipper or JayBo, but seeing Iggy play for another team would suck as much as it did watching my first favourite Flame win a Cup as an Oiler.

If we don't trade Iginla, and he signs with another team as a UFA, are we really left with "nothing"? Aren't we left with seven million dollars of cap space that can be spent elsewhere?

[#-3]

I think the most important question in all of this is, Whats in Iggy's Head?

If Iginla is OK the idea of going forward like Alfredson, taking ~$4.875/year and 17-18 min/game. Then that is what this team needs out of him.

If Iginla expects $7M and 21min/game the next 3 years then I think the Flames really need to look at moving on.

Not that Iginla should want to play less, but he needs to understand at this point in his career playing with Begin & Comeau would not mean that Begin and Comeau had been premoted to the first line.

I really hope by this point in time Feaster and Conroy have a good idea where Iginla is at.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Howie_16

If we don't trade Iginla, and he signs with another team as a UFA, are we really left with "nothing"? Aren't we left with seven million dollars of cap space that can be spent elsewhere?

7 million cap space to sign other players: good. 7 million cap space + draft picks/prospects/younger roster players: even better.