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Old 10-23-2012, 11:12 AM   #41
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Our food demands are shocking to begin with. Honestly, take a spin through the produce at any major store and notice how perfect it all is. People won't buy an apple with a little tiny bruise on it. Stores won't even have a "marked down" section for things like that, where there is really no health risk at all. Say 80-90% of that apple is totally fine and people will use these things for all kinds of cooking, let alone just eating. Yet, you can't buy them or any other "damaged" food items. Its shocking in the sense that food is so expensive and with arable land decreasing and populations increasing we know that the prices will continue to rise.

So, bearing that mind, there are people honestly advocating that a store that won't sell bruised apples should now sell meat that has potentially been contaminated! Its more than amusing, its ridiculous! Put whatever warning out you want and (A) very few people would actually buy it (B) if one person gets sick, let alone dies, and you as the store knew it was contaminated and you get sued, for sure.
Forgive me, I haven't shopped for produce in Calgary for about 15 years, but doesn't Calgary have chinese/corner/independent grocers?

My local guys have things in a range and the price reflects that.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:27 AM   #42
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Grocers don't sell damaged fruit because then they would have to accept the whole load.

Instead when they get damaged fruits, they reject it and then get rembursed by charging the carrier or vendor who then tries to salvage the load by hiring some one to sort through it and then they sell the remaining undamaged goods to someone.

Why on earth would anyone pay for damaged product from the carrier or vendor and then risk that product going bad on the shelf. This isn't clothes or damaged toys you're talking about that can sit on a clearence rack and maybe eventually, someone will buy it. Food spoils.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:49 AM   #43
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Exactly. I'm sure the homeless people all over Alberta would be thrilled at the prospect of getting a good meal. Probably closer to a hundred good meals considering how much of it there is.
How exactly would you insure the meat being cooked properly? And what if someone did get sick and died from e-coli? Couldn't they just say they ate at the homeless shelter where they knowingly served meat that possibly had e-coli?

Do you not understand the legal ramifications this could cause?

Sure, it sounds nice that a bunch of homeless people will have some meat, but there is just way too much that can go wrong that it would be better to just throw out the meat.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:41 PM   #44
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Grocers don't sell damaged fruit because then they would have to accept the whole load.

Instead when they get damaged fruits, they reject it and then get rembursed by charging the carrier or vendor who then tries to salvage the load by hiring some one to sort through it and then they sell the remaining undamaged goods to someone.

Why on earth would anyone pay for damaged product from the carrier or vendor and then risk that product going bad on the shelf. This isn't clothes or damaged toys you're talking about that can sit on a clearence rack and maybe eventually, someone will buy it. Food spoils.
Or they accept a box of apples for example, and throw out the poorer quality ones. I'm not suggesting that there ought to be shelves of rotten produce for sale, but reasonably speaking there is a lot of food that goes directly to waste because of our incredibly high standards. The same thing happens with baked goods, and all kinds of other food for sale. One of the greatest contributions to a rugby club I played for was an enormous box of premade, but "expired" sandwiches that a guy brought us. They couldn't be sold, but they were still sealed and totally fine.

All my point comes down to is that there is a lot of perfectly edible and good food that goes to waste. Suggesting that we feed the poor with contaminated food in the face of that waste is just ridiculous.
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Forgive me, I haven't shopped for produce in Calgary for about 15 years, but doesn't Calgary have chinese/corner/independent grocers?

My local guys have things in a range and the price reflects that.
Not a lot come to mind...maybe chinatown?
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:51 PM   #46
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Or they accept a box of apples for example, and throw out the poorer quality ones. I'm not suggesting that there ought to be shelves of rotten produce for sale, but reasonably speaking there is a lot of food that goes directly to waste because of our incredibly high standards. The same thing happens with baked goods, and all kinds of other food for sale. One of the greatest contributions to a rugby club I played for was an enormous box of premade, but "expired" sandwiches that a guy brought us. They couldn't be sold, but they were still sealed and totally fine.

All my point comes down to is that there is a lot of perfectly edible and good food that goes to waste. Suggesting that we feed the poor with contaminated food in the face of that waste is just ridiculous.
I don't know about other stores but when I worked at Loblaw I'm pretty sure (wasn't my department) we rejected any load that had even one box of damaged or spoiled produce. You couldn't accept a partial load like you could with other product. I don't remember the exact reasoning for this but I'm pretty sure it was for the reasons I stated earlier. it was super annoying for us in transport cause we had to scramble to cover whatever that load was so that we don't short product...

I do agree its really wasteful. The thing is that as long as there are better options (i.e. apples that aren't bruised) no one is going to buy the damaged apples for the price that the store can offer it for. Once you factor in cost of goods sold for each apple, you can only offer a few cents off for the damaged product.

And well, now that they just laid 700 people off, maybe that policy will be reviewed lol.
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I don't know about other stores but when I worked at Loblaw I'm pretty sure (wasn't my department) we rejected any load that had even one box of damaged or spoiled produce. You couldn't accept a partial load like you could with other product. I don't remember the exact reasoning for this but I'm pretty sure it was for the reasons I stated earlier. it was super annoying for us in transport cause we had to scramble to cover whatever that load was so that we don't short product...

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And this is why you should never buy produce at superstore.....they buy up all rejected loads....
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And this is why you should never buy produce at superstore.....they buy up all rejected loads....
Loblaw is superstore
I don't know if they bought up the salvaged loads from the carrier or vendor. Wouldn't be suprised.

But I agree. I would never buy produce or meats at superstore.

It just doesn't seem to be very good for some reason lol.

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Loblaw is superstore

But I agree. I would never buy produce or meats at superstore.

It sucks lol.
Loblaws is the parent of Superstore, but they are not the same.
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