Canada Breaking Diplomatic Ties With Iran

[saskflames69]

Well, after browsing the internet and visiting some websites that may get me in trouble just for visiting, all I can say is wow, hatred is out. there.

The future looks bleak.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Wormius

That they are arresting, and returning asylum seekers from legitimately dangerous scenarios for one.

That is a really bad argument. Israel, according to you, can be called one of the worst countries for human rights abuses because of their immigration policy. Super silly argument. People ARE trying to get into Israel because it is SAFE, and they have a record of respecting human rights.

Don't you realize how ridiculous your argument is?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

That is a really bad argument. Israel, according to you, can be called one of the worst countries for human rights abuses because of their immigration policy. Super silly argument. People ARE trying to get into Israel because it is SAFE, and they have a record of respecting human rights.

Don't you realize how ridiculous your argument is?

I was countering your last paragraph that suggested Israel loves and respects all races and religions, I wasn't talking about human rights abuses.

And yes, people from all over want to go to Israel because its supposedly safer than where they are coming from, but Israel's government decides that its better to detain and deport those people.

Sure it's their right to make whatever laws they want, but I would say it's sad, considering their own history, that they would not offer refuge to those that fled perilous situations and are now without a home.

[Stranger]

I was reading an CBC page on the issue this morning. Always fun to read the comments section. No one can seem to figure why our war mongering country would abbandon the Iranians.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...relations.html

[Calgaryborn]

I wonder if this move had more to do with security here rather than making a political statement over there.

If the government of Iran is a sponsor of terrorism and Iran's second biggest enemy is our close nieghbour it would only make sense for them to use the diplomatic protection of their embassy in Canada to launch attacks. Canada isn't just closing their embassy in Iran; They are closing the Iranian embassy here and ordering all their diplomats home.

[mrvee]

Just leave Iran alone it will set itself straight.Don't poke a bear.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by mrvee

Just leave Iran alone it will set itself straight.Don't poke a bear.

Hmmm...words maybe Iran's government should be operating by in regard to Israel?

[T@T]

Originally Posted by mrvee

Just leave Iran alone it will set itself straight.Don't poke a bear.

Right now their only a panda bear,not smart to give them the time too become a grizzly.

[AR_Six]

Originally Posted by saskflames69

What if this is the big one? Everybody is angry at each other, there's a big cloud of hatred trapped in the Earth's atmosphere and it's going to take a full scale conflict before people wake up and stop this intolerance.

You're right, because this atmosphere of instability hatred and emotional hostility has never been seen before in the largely peaceful history of the Middle East.

[Table 5]

Honestly, that whole region is a cancer on this earth, and both sides are equally guilty. Neither of them ever want to find a solution that works for the long-term, and I wish we would pull out entirely. Let them fight their petty squabble on their own dime....there are plenty of better things to spend money on within Canada.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

That is a really bad argument. Israel, according to you, can be called one of the worst countries for human rights abuses because of their immigration policy. Super silly argument. People ARE trying to get into Israel because it is SAFE, and they have a record of respecting human rights.

Don't you realize how ridiculous your argument is?

Yeah, I love giant concrete security walls. Reminds of the golden age in Berlin. Oh and I love governments that raid ships in neutral waters without proper cause. Oh and their invasive settlements in the West Bank are super awesome.


But I'm sure you'll just tell me that all these things are justified because all the nations around them hate them.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Honestly, that whole region is a cancer on this earth, and both sides are equally guilty. Neither of them ever want to find a solution that works for the long-term, and I wish we would pull out entirely. Let them fight their petty squabble on their own dime....there are plenty of better things to spend money on within Canada.

No both sides are not equal. One routinely calls for the destruction of the other and refuses to recognise the other as a nation. One side funds terrorist groups. One side has historically started every war the other side has had to fight. The disputed territories are a direct result of those wars.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

No both sides are not equal. One routinely calls for the destruction of the other and refuses to recognise the other as a nation. One side funds terrorist groups. One side has historically started every war the other side has had to fight. The disputed territories are a direct result of those wars.

They are both at fault...at what degree is up for debate, but the problem is that neither is able to recognize their own faults, and only blames the other side. Someone like yourself is great at listing the reasons why that Arabs/Muslims are at to blame....but never seem to acknowledge how Israel is an antagonizing force in that area too. Do you ever admit any fault?

At the end of the day, as a Canadian, I don't want us involved, period. Israel is one of the most advanced and developed nations in the world....they don't need our money, yet for some reason continue to suck resources from western nations. Iran is run by a bunch of whacko nutjobs who probably don't appreciate any involvement/help anyway.

Let them figure it out on their own. There are plenty of issues to fix in our country that require money and resources.

[billybob123]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

One side has historically started every war the other side has had to fight.

Incorrect. 1967 was "preemptively" launched by Israel.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Table 5

They are both at fault...at what degree is up for debate, but the problem is that neither is able to recognize their own faults, and only blames the other side. Someone like yourself is great at listing the reasons why that Arabs/Muslims are at to blame....but never seem to acknowledge how Israel is an antagonizing force in that area too. Do you ever admit any fault?

At the end of the day, as a Canadian, I don't want us involved, period. Israel is one of the most advanced and developed nations in the world....they don't need our money, yet for some reason continue to suck resources from western nations. Iran is run by a bunch of whacko nutjobs who probably don't appreciate any involvement/help anyway.

Let them figure it out on their own. There are plenty of issues to fix in our country that require money and resources.

Now you just went from "equal" in your last post to "up to debate" in this post. You accuse me of not seeing both sides yet you can't acknowledge the great gulf between Israel's treatment of their nieghbours such as Iran or Syria and the treatment they recieve.

Sure there are problems on both sides when looking at the issues of the occupied territories. That doesn't justify the funding of terrorists and the call for extermination of a nation.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Now you just went from "equal" in your last post to "up to debate" in this post. You accuse me of not seeing both sides yet you can't acknowledge the great gulf between Israel's treatment of their nieghbours such as Iran or Syria and the treatment they recieve.

Sure there are problems on both sides when looking at the issues of the occupied territories. That doesn't justify the funding of terrorists and the call for extermination of a nation.

One could argue that Israel is in itself a terrorist state. I don't know if I would make that agreement. But others have alluded to that point before.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by billybob123

Incorrect. 1967 was "preemptively" launched by Israel.

Preemptive of what? An obvious build up for war that Israel would have lost without a preemptive strike.

You are right about Israel starting that military action but, I have never heard anyone say it was done for reasons other than self preservation.

If Israel ends up bombing the Iranian nuclear reactor that will be a preemptive strike as well. That act in my mind would be also be an act of self defence.

[Vulcan]

I look at Israel as the sleazy brother in law who lives in a crime riddled neighbourhood who does what he has to, to survive. Can't completely trust him so you don't want him around too much but he is family and comes in handy if you need some dirty work done.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I look at Israel as the sleazy brother in law who lives in a crime riddled neighbourhood who does what he has to, to survive. Can't completely trust him so you don't want him around too much but he is family and comes in handy if you need some dirty work done.

How is he family? Because we set him up in that 'crime riddled' neighbourhood because felt bad because we ignored him and let him others commit terrible atrocious upon him?

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

One could argue that Israel is in itself a terrorist state. I don't know if I would make that agreement. But others have alluded to that point before.

Well they are being called things all the time. I would leave the term "terrorist" for those who try to move a government to change by killing their citizens with the motivation of spreading fear.