RCMP college in Fort MacLeod was a great idea until Wildrose won the riding

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

But then, I might be too harsh. It seems the government is showing signs of learning how to control its runaway spending. But only in ridings that aren't blue.

If the gov't can only spend responsibly in ridings that don't vote tory, then hopefully in the future no ridings vote tory, thus solving our wasteful spending problem.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

But then, I might be too harsh. It seems the government is showing signs of learning how to control its runaway spending. But only in ridings that aren't blue.

Can you provide some evidence that spending cuts are only going to impact Wildrose constituencies? It actually seems like the entire provincial government is going to be tightening their belts and lowering their budgets.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...83/?cmpid=rss1

Personally I wouldn't be opposed to a properly instituted consumption tax... everyone wants more but they want to pay less for more it seems.

[Azure]

Why is Fort MacLeod a good location? I don't get it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Azure

Why is Fort MacLeod a good location? I don't get it.

The correct response is it gave Ed Stelmech the nicest score of politcal points.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Azure

Why is Fort MacLeod a good location? I don't get it.

There was a comprehensive bid program (6++ yrs ago IIRC) many smaller centers were in the running. I think Airdrie was one of finalist as well.

Found this "timeline" in the Herald.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Originally Posted by Azure

Why is Fort MacLeod a good location? I don't get it.

1. It's got a long history in policing, was once the headquarters of the NWMP.
2. Convenient areas nearby to practice arresting people.

[Azure]

Its also a 'nothing' town. History is all it has.

[metallicat]

I would have thought a more central location in the province would have been preferable.

[longsuffering]

This thread has pretty much gone as expected.

If the Tories had gone ahead with the project, they would have been accused of building a white elephant and wasting taxpayers money.

There's no winning with the Wildrose. Every dollar the Redford government spends is wasted and every dollar it cuts is a travesty.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

This thread has pretty much gone as expected.

Or we're getting pretty much what's expected from the Tories. Let's follow the options.

1) The new Police Academy is wasteful spending. In that case, cancelling it was the right move. But if that's the case, why didn't they realize it was wasteful in the last 6 years they've been studying it? Either they didn't ask the police if they needed it or they ignored them. So they shouldn't have green lit the project in the first place, and wasted a bunch of money.

2) The new school isn't wasteful spending, it was needed, but they pulled it for political reasons.

Those are the only two options I can think of, and they both paint the Tories in a pretty bad light.

[underGRADFlame]

The fact of the matter is that AACP (Alberta Accosiation of chiefs of police) don't see a need for the college. The major police services in the province already have training programs in place for its officers. Had a provincial police force gone forward as was the talk 10 years ago then this would have made sense but the facility is not needed.
I would rather see the government have only spent 6 million to cancel instead of wasting 145 million.

[transplant99]

The other thing about this that was metioned on one of the radio programs today was the mayor of Ft MacLeod opining how his town had already spent over 4 million on paving the site the college was to be built and the roads around it, along with a bunch of other infrastructure to be utilized in anticipation of the new flow of people.

Well done Alison, you incompent boob.

[Bigtime]

Cancelling this was a mistake, the government could have made millions letting them film Police Academy 30 or whatever there.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Cancelling this was a mistake, the government could have made millions letting them film Police Academy 30 or whatever there.

I want to know what happens now when all the baby boomer mall cops retire - who is going to fill those spots??

[SebC]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Or we're getting pretty much what's expected from the Tories. Let's follow the options.

1) The new Police Academy is wasteful spending. In that case, cancelling it was the right move. But if that's the case, why didn't they realize it was wasteful in the last 6 years they've been studying it? Either they didn't ask the police if they needed it or they ignored them. So they shouldn't have green lit the project in the first place, and wasted a bunch of money.

2) The new school isn't wasteful spending, it was needed, but they pulled it for political reasons.

Those are the only two options I can think of, and they both paint the Tories in a pretty bad light.

Sure, but where were the Wildrose when it first got the green light. I agree the PCs goofed there but there is no indication the Wildrose would've done better. Possibly, they would have been worse (not cancelling wasteful spending).

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Sure... but why weren't the chiefs saying this in February? Last year? Two years ago? Three years ago? Four years ago? Five years ago? Six years ago? And if they were, why wasn't the government listening?

C'mon Slava, even you have to admit the timing stinks to high hell.



Adding sources of income does not solve the root issue, which is how the government spends money like an 18-year-old who just got back from working three months in Fort McMurray.

But then, I might be too harsh. It seems the government is showing signs of learning how to control its runaway spending. But only in ridings that aren't blue.

The timing is questionable, absolutely. I just don't get the impression that the Wildrose would've actually canceled this sooner? Have they ever raised it as something that they would cut?

This leads back to my favorite criticism of the Wildrose though. They accuse the government of spending like drunken sailors, and that's fine. Have they finally found the stones to tell us where they would cut? I looked at what they produced during the campaign and that amateur hour production wasn't going to balance the books.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Slava

The timing is questionable, absolutely. I just don't get the impression that the Wildrose would've actually canceled this sooner? Have they ever raised it as something that they would cut?

This leads back to my favorite criticism of the Wildrose though. They accuse the government of spending like drunken sailors, and that's fine. Have they finally found the stones to tell us where they would cut? I looked at what they produced during the campaign and that amateur hour production wasn't going to balance the books.

Nice spin doctoring. You said the same thing over and over and have convinced yourself the facts have changed.

The bottom line is that the cancellation happend in a riding they lost after having strung the public along.

If you're looking for a wild rose equivalent then look at their saying they would have stopped the provincial funding to the royal Alberta museum in Edmonton. At least the wr had the guts to do it during the election.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Nice spin doctoring. You said the same thing over and over and have convinced yourself the facts have changed.

The bottom line is that the cancellation happend in a riding they lost after having strung the public along.

If you're looking for a wild rose equivalent then look at their saying they would have stopped the provincial funding to the royal Alberta museum in Edmonton. At least the wr had the guts to do it during the election.

What spin doctoring? How would they balance the budget? Where are they cutting? Frankly speaking the only budget that would still remain balanced a mere four months after the election is that put forward by the Liberals. Both the Wildrose and PCs are content with budgeting every last nickel of our fluctuating resource wealth.

[killer_carlson]

Yawn....

Fear mongering from a liberal. So cliche

Stick to the facts. Redford is sticking it to ft Macleod. The braid editorial had it right.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The other thing about this that was metioned on one of the radio programs today was the mayor of Ft MacLeod opining how his town had already spent over 4 million on paving the site the college was to be built and the roads around it, along with a bunch of other infrastructure to be utilized in anticipation of the new flow of people.

Well done Alison, you incompent boob.

How is Redford an "incompent" boob? It is the question of throwing good money a fter bad. Sure it sucks that there was money spent on a road to the college but just because a road exists to the place doesn't mean that it should be built. It seems more like Stelmach is the incompetent boob in this instance for his governments proposal existing in the first place when there apparently wasn't the demand or desire.