This issue makes me think of Daniel Igali's victory in Sydney. As a refugee who fled Nigeria, you got the sense that he took more pride and honour in his new Canadian identity than many long-time Canadians. Obviously two very different situations. If Igali had chosen to wave both the Canadian and Nigerian flag after winning, I wouldn't have been offended by it, but also it wouldn't have become one of the iconic moments in Canadian Olympic sports.
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to octothorp For This Useful Post:
As a dual citizen who came to Canada as a child... I would not be dissing Canada in away if I chose to carry the British flag with my Canadian one, and it would piss me off if it was interpreted as a such.
This issue makes me think of Daniel Igali's victory in Sydney. As a refugee who fled Nigeria, you got the sense that he took more pride and honour in his new Canadian identity than many long-time Canadians. Obviously two very different situations. If Igali had chosen to wave both the Canadian and Nigerian flag after winning, I wouldn't have been offended by it, but also it wouldn't have become one of the iconic moments in Canadian Olympic sports.
holy crap, that was 12 years ago?! ... I'm too old.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
The Following User Says Thank You to nik- For This Useful Post:
__________________
Thank you for everything CP. Good memories and thankful for everything that has been done to help me out. I will no longer take part on these boards. Take care, Go Flames Go.
As a dual citizen who came to Canada as a child... I would not be dissing Canada in away if I chose to carry the British flag with my Canadian one, and it would piss me off if it was interpreted as a such.
Yep! I've lived my whole life in Canada, but I'm a first generation born, and identify as much with my Polish heritage as I do with my Canadian life. It's not a jab at Canada, it's just an homage to every country you have true feelings for. I'm not in a monogamous relationship with Canada, deal with it!
__________________
"Correction, it's not your leg son. It's Liverpool's leg" - Shankly
He is proud of her heritage. That said, the butt hurt expressed by some is not unique to the US. I remember a big furore erupted when Cathy Freeman, and Aboriginal Australian displayed an Aboriginal flag following an Olympic victory.
She was expressing and proud of her heritage, just as Manzano is of his. It is a personal thing and important to them and hurts no one and should offend no one.
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
Exp:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnet Flame
He is proud of her heritage. That said, the butt hurt expressed by some is not unique to the US. I remember a big furore erupted when Cathy Freeman, and Aboriginal Australian displayed an Aboriginal flag following an Olympic victory.
She was expressing and proud of her heritage, just as Manzano is of his. It is a personal thing and important to them and hurts no one and should offend no one.
Though i personally have no problem with what shr did or this guy for that matter, no one should tell others what they should or should not find offensive.
I think the issue is silly, but I also wonder what the response would be if we faced it. Say the Flames win the cup and a player unfurls an American flag, or a Quebec flag. Still have the same opinion? What if after Ray Bourque won his cup he peeled off his jersey and had a Boston shirt underneath or put on a B's hat?
The reality is that the olympics are a nationalistic competition and one country has trained and paid your way, at least to some extent. Its probably unwise to fly another flag there for that reason.
The Following User Says Thank You to Slava For This Useful Post:
Thing is he didn't just have a mexico flag, he had both.
He is proud of being an American and is proud of his Mexican heritage, he should not be obligated to just wave the American flag since he is part of the U.S. Olympic team.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyC
Its hard to say because it depends on how you feel about where you came from. I'm assuming much of his family is from, and still lives in, Mexico and therefore Mexico is cheering for him as well. And especially considering the low medals that Mexico takes compared to USA I can understand it.
Pretty much both of these. If she were originally from another Olympic juggernaut like China and had that flag, I could see how it'd be more of an issue. But it was Mexico. I really don't see the big deal here.
Though i personally have no problem with what shr did or this guy for that matter, no one should tell others what they should or should not find offensive.
Huh? Please test that statement against the following examples: black people, and ethnic cleansing.
Though i personally have no problem with what shr did or this guy for that matter, no one should tell others what they should or should not find offensive.
If I was asked to represent my country in an international arena I would consider myself honoured. I wouldn't use the opportunity to express my political views or even my religious views. I would represent my country and it alone. That is what I signed up for.
After attending St. Francis High School I can say I'm against this after watching 5th generation Canadians waving Italian flags all over the place every day some hairy guy was about to kick a ball over the net in penalty kicks.
You should accept the country you were raised in as your own, and be grateful for the opportunities it presented you growing up and show your appreciation and pride when representing it.
And no matter how bad Canada sucks at soccer, that should be your favorite team.
I'm Italian and I went to Francis but I'm gonna go ahead and say that this doesn't apply to me because my mom and her family were fresh off the boat making me a 1st generation Canadian (or is that 2nd generation?).
Funny enough, a lot of my Italian family complains about those same people who really have no roots left in Italy and still act like they just got here 5 mins ago. I at least still have relatives that live overseas.
Last edited by Cecil Terwilliger; 08-11-2012 at 11:47 AM.
If I was asked to represent my country in an international arena I would consider myself honoured. I wouldn't use the opportunity to express my political views or even my religious views. I would represent my country and it alone. That is what I signed up for.
You aren't usually asked, you ordinarily have to qualify through your performances to represent your country.
