06-11-2012, 01:54 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Manny got some decisions he did not deserve too.
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06-11-2012, 02:09 PM
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#42
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Haha like his last fight before this one? I definitely thought Marquez at worst got a draw and probably should have won.
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06-11-2012, 03:28 PM
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#43
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I'm playing the devils advocate here, but has anyone ever been to one of these sporting events? On TV, it's much slower. In person, those punches and kicks seem way quicker. I'm not sure I put much into conspiracies, but it is very possible the judges missed some key hits from below where they were. As well, I have to say, the commentators seemed to exaggerate Pacquiao's hits where I did see some decent shots Bradley landed which were given a ho-hum reception. I still think Manny won, but not nearly as wide as many think. 115-113 on average sounds more appropriate.
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06-11-2012, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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I had it scored 9-3 manny, granted I was routing for Bradley as well so might have been biased in some close rounds.
Although Arum seems to be pissed about this....do you think there is anyway he is behind it? He admits to being able to make millions more in a rematch and it delays the possible Floyd fight even longer which to me it seems as though would have happened already if it was between Manny and Floyd.
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06-11-2012, 06:18 PM
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#45
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I was rooting for Timmy the tooth as well, but no way did he get more then 2 rounds. His vegan diet probably ruined his power as well his punches where weak as heck. He's not a very talented boxer at all, but he has a lot of will and heart.
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06-11-2012, 11:15 PM
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#46
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The guy fought 8 rounds on a severely sprained ankle and 10 rounds on a broken foot. You can't question his heart but he won maybe 3 rounds at most.
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06-12-2012, 06:56 AM
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#47
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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It was a pathetic decision, and almost everyone agrees with that. The thing that makes me laugh is that MMA fans seem to think they're somehow immune to this sort of thing. I've watched a lot of MMA as well and seen some terrible/questionable decisions there as well. The one difference here is that its Manny Pacquiao and a clear superstar in the sport.
A few years ago there was talk of showing the judges scorecards after each round. I would love to see that. It would definitely change a lot, but it would also help eliminate garbage like this.
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06-12-2012, 07:34 AM
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#48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
The thing that makes me laugh is that MMA fans seem to think they're somehow immune to this sort of thing. .
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Where do you see that?
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06-12-2012, 09:04 AM
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#49
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Where do you see that?
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Its in the "boxing is dead, MMA forever" kind of thing. I'm not suggesting that everyone who likes MMA is subject to this, but its certainly there. Just the idea that this bad decision would be the death knell to boxing should be a wake-up call to MMA and all other judged events IMO.
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06-12-2012, 11:12 AM
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hahahahaha what a little bitch.hehe Maybe you shouldn't go around beating up women. Him not boxing ever again is prob good for the sport. Never seen a boxer so scared to get hit.
http://www.cbssports.com/general/sto...weather-career
The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports Mayweather's lawyers filed an emergency motion Monday asking that he serve the remainder of his three-month jail sentence in house arrest. Lawyer Richard Wright says Mayweather's health is deteriorating by being confined to his cell 23 hours a day and restricted from working out. Jailers are keeping him from the general inmate population because of his celebrity status.
The motion says the boxer's doctor believes the conditions could do irreversible damage to Mayweather's physique.
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06-12-2012, 11:37 PM
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#51
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that decision was a sham. Maybe Manny should knock off his taking it easy on his opponents when he has them in trouble letting them off the hook and start KO' his competition like he used to.
Even still it was a outlandish decision.
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06-12-2012, 11:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
It was a pathetic decision, and almost everyone agrees with that. The thing that makes me laugh is that MMA fans seem to think they're somehow immune to this sort of thing. I've watched a lot of MMA as well and seen some terrible/questionable decisions there as well. The one difference here is that its Manny Pacquiao and a clear superstar in the sport.
A few years ago there was talk of showing the judges scorecards after each round. I would love to see that. It would definitely change a lot, but it would also help eliminate garbage like this.
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Which UFC fights were as terribly judged as this one?
Not trying to be a dick but just wondering as I can't think of one. Certainly some controversial decisions but none in the UFC that I can think of that were this clear cut and certainly not a fight of this profile.
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06-12-2012, 11:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
hahahahaha what a little bitch.hehe Maybe you shouldn't go around beating up women. Him not boxing ever again is prob good for the sport. Never seen a boxer so scared to get hit.
http://www.cbssports.com/general/sto...weather-career
The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports Mayweather's lawyers filed an emergency motion Monday asking that he serve the remainder of his three-month jail sentence in house arrest. Lawyer Richard Wright says Mayweather's health is deteriorating by being confined to his cell 23 hours a day and restricted from working out. Jailers are keeping him from the general inmate population because of his celebrity status.
The motion says the boxer's doctor believes the conditions could do irreversible damage to Mayweather's physique.
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Good for the sport? The guy is a huge part of the sport right now and does much more than just fight.
In his defense, it sounds as if he is being treated worse than any other inmates due to his celeb status...shouldnt he be allowed out of his cell at a different time than everyone else at least?
I hope he can recoup quickly and come out eager to accept mannys...sorry Bob's 50/50 demand. Each passing fight makes me believe Floyd is holding it together better than Manny as they age (floyd being a couple years older too)
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06-12-2012, 11:54 PM
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#54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
Which UFC fights were as terribly judged as this one?
Not trying to be a dick but just wondering as I can't think of one. Certainly some controversial decisions but none in the UFC that I can think of that were this clear cut and certainly not a fight of this profile.
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Phan/Garcia?
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06-12-2012, 11:58 PM
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
Phan/Garcia?
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I don't think that was as bad.
Might be because in a 3 round fight it is always going to be close than a 12 round fight. May also be because I don't like Phan.
I think that was a bad decison but not on the level of one guy dominating so much as Phan won the fight but didn't dominate.
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06-13-2012, 09:15 AM
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#56
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
Which UFC fights were as terribly judged as this one?
Not trying to be a dick but just wondering as I can't think of one. Certainly some controversial decisions but none in the UFC that I can think of that were this clear cut and certainly not a fight of this profile.
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I honestly don't know. I'm not one of those guys with a photographic memory for those kinds of things (who fought who and what happened in the 2nd minute of the 3rd round kind of thing). I just know that of the probably thousands of MMA fights I've watched there are some questionable decisions in there.
Wasn't there also the fight just a few months ago that was announced as a draw at the presser after it was called a split decision in the ring? Noting says controversy like not being able to determine the outcome!
My point isn't that one sport is better than the other or anything like that though. What I'm driving at is that judging in any sport is a bad idea. People are not altruistic and we've seen this across a number of sports and for a number of reasons. MMA fans should see this issue for what it is; while no one as high profile as Manny has been jobbed in the UFC that certainly doesn't mean it can't/won't happen.
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