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Old 06-06-2012, 11:03 PM   #41
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I don't care how 'easily' he could show up or be implemented. The whole point of the this JJverse thing was to free NuTrek from the confines of Canon, so why just retread old films and tv episodes? It's lazy writing.


Is the real Star Trek II best picture worthy? No, but it has a depth that no other Trek Movie has even come close to. Any version of Khan in the JJverse would be cheap imitation filled with Uhura bra shots and lens flares.
Fair enough, but even the first movie of the reboot had a ton of retreaded factors. The Kobayashi Maru, McCoy's nickname, etc.

Hey, I'm not saying I want to see them introduce a new Khan, I just figure the plot of the first movie leaves the possibility open. Chris Pine was able to pull off a convincing James Kirk without a cheap Shatner imitation, Khan could be re-invented as well (as cringeworthy as that may sound to the die hard loyalists).

According to the leaked photos from February, I wouldn't be surprised if Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Gary Mitchell. Perhaps the reports I read a year ago are wrong, and they have come up with a completely original villain. Nostalgia prefers the former, but I would be excited to see a new series of baddies.
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Fair enough, but even the first movie of the reboot had a ton of retreaded factors. The Kobayashi Maru, McCoy's nickname, etc.

Hey, I'm not saying I want to see them introduce a new Khan, I just figure the plot of the first movie leaves the possibility open. Chris Pine was able to pull off a convincing James Kirk without a cheap Shatner imitation, Khan could be re-invented as well (as cringeworthy as that may sound to the die hard loyalists).

According to the leaked photos from February, I wouldn't be surprised if Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Gary Mitchell. Perhaps the reports I read a year ago are wrong, and they have come up with a completely original villain. Nostalgia prefers the former, but I would be excited to see a new series of baddies.
Except Bone's nickname had nothing to do with his divorce, but hey, at least the fact that McCoy is divorced is finally cannon. And I hated they way Kirk 'passed' the Kobayashi Maru. I mean he always cheated, but he changed the conditions of the test, he didn't just hack it so one torpedo can blow up each ####. That doesn't deserve a commendation for original thinking.



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Old 06-07-2012, 01:01 AM   #46
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God just say no the Q, he was fun and everything, but he should stay in the next gen field.

There were several great villians that could be explored in the new trek univers

Gary Mitchell, even though he should have been introduced in the first movie.
Mudd he could easily be darkened up.
The Klingons and Romulons even through I'd prefer they were left out.
I forget his last name but that Gary guy from the future who tried to change the time line.
The Guardian at the edge of forever, they could jump time lines.

How about the mirror universe, that universes time line had to change too.
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God just say no the Q, he was fun and everything, but he should stay in the next gen field.

There were several great villians that could be explored in the new trek univers

Gary Mitchell, even though he should have been introduced in the first movie.
Mudd he could easily be darkened up.
The Klingons and Romulons even through I'd prefer they were left out.
I forget his last name but that Gary guy from the future who tried to change the time line.
The Guardian at the edge of forever, they could jump time lines.

How about the mirror universe, that universes time line had to change too.
To add to that list, there is also the possibility of the Talosians at some point.
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Except Bone's nickname had nothing to do with his divorce, but hey, at least the fact that McCoy is divorced is finally cannon. And I hated they way Kirk 'passed' the Kobayashi Maru. I mean he always cheated, but he changed the conditions of the test, he didn't just hack it so one torpedo can blow up each ####. That doesn't deserve a commendation for original thinking.



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I always thought his resolution of the Kobayashi Maru scenario was to sacrifice the other ship and lure a couple of warbirds to the ship then set it on self destruct and transport all the people to the Enterprise then fight it out and barely win.

Hacking into the program to turn all the shields off each of the warbirds was lame.
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Spock: The Kobayashi Maru scenario frequently wreaks havoc on students and equipment. As I recall you took the test three times yourself. Your final solution was, shall we say, unique?
Kirk: It had the virtue of never having been tried.
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Saavik: Admiral, may I ask you a question?
Kirk: What's on your mind, Lieutenant?
Saavik: The Kobayashi Maru, sir.
Kirk: Are you asking me if we're playing out that scenario now?
Saavik: On the test, sir... will you tell me what you did? I would really like to know.
McCoy: Lieutenant, you are looking at the only Starfleet cadet who ever beat the no-win scenario.
Saavik: How?
Kirk: I reprogrammed the simulation so it was possible to rescue the ship.
Saavik: What?
David Marcus: He cheated.
Kirk: I changed the conditions of the test; got a commendation for original thinking. I don't like to lose.
Saavik: Then you never faced that situation... faced death.
Kirk: I don't believe in the no-win scenario.



I hated the fact that he made it such an obvious cheat.

In the game star fleet academy the main rookie character does a similar cheat, iirc it allowed him to negotiate his way out.

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The title has been confirmed as:

Star Trek Into Darkness

http://trekmovie.com/2012/09/07/excl...tle-confirmed/
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Darker theme? Last movie they destroyed an entire planet; killing billions in the process.
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When are we gonna get a teaser trailer or something? The last movie had it's first full trailer come out with James Bond in November 08, can we expect something similar here?
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I'm tired of this cone of silence around this film. Even to the point where I just don't care about it.
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I'm tired of this cone of silence around this film. Even to the point where I just don't care about it.
I would expect to see something soon.
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I would expect to see something soon.
I just don't know why JJ hates SDCC. He must hate building hyper for his movies.
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Darker theme? Last movie they destroyed an entire planet; killing billions in the process.
You can always go darker. Killed a planet? Next time we blow up the galaxy...and then in Star Trek 3, the universe. Imagine the tears that Bryzgalov would shed.
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Gary Bettman is the antagonist of the new trek.
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Darker theme? Last movie they destroyed an entire planet; killing billions in the process.
i don't really know what they mean, but i like it. Star Trek has always been at it's best when the writers went to the well and had the characters go through some really mental ####. Picard being assimilated, the dominian war in DS9, and this:

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Come on, tribbles! You can't get darker than tribbles!
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