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Old 02-11-2012, 03:03 PM   #41
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Good on him. I didn't grow up with guns so I likely would have taken a hammer to the laptop. I have a sibling that spends far too much time airing personal family bull#### on facebook, so I can understand his frustration. I don't talk to my sibling anymore because of it. If making a video of me destroying their laptop would make them stop, I gladly would. Reasoning hasn't worked thus far so I stopped.

The follow up posts by the father show that he is an intelligent individual with standards. Not even trying to make a buck off this when he clearly could.

Too many bleeding hearts are upset by this. This next generation of children are getting coddled too much.
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Kind of like his daughter did, right?

Like I said, I question the way he brought his daughter up. The way I was brought up: I would NEVER speak that way about my parents, especially in an open forum like FB...for hundreds of people to read.
The daughter is 15 and was wrong in her actions. 15 year olds aren't exactly known for being level headed and not acting impulsively. In my opinion, eye for an eye parenting is not justified.
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The tree always gets the apple it deserves
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The tree always gets the apple it deserves
With this variety of tree apple should be pluralized: one bad apple often isn't enough for these "special" cases.
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My kid does something wrong with a toy, it goes into 'toy timeout', she does the same thing again and the toy goes directly into the garbage. I think his shooting the laptop mirrors that pretty much, so I fully support that his did that.

As for the public humiliation, my first reaction is that it was totally uncalled for, but then I realized SHE posted it in the public forum in the first place. She was making (apparently) exaggerated or false accusations in a public forum and he responded in a public forum. Tit for tat.


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If the kid shows up at school with a self-inflicted black eye after that video, I'm pretty sure dad is going to jail, or she gets a new set of foster parents. Win win for her either way.
As a foster parent myself, everything I know about situations like that lead me to believe that the chances she would end up in care are crazy low, and him going to jail would be even lower. I have no doubt it would be investigated, but a single black eye that followed as a response to this allegation without any supporting history or other evidence of a pattern of abuse would likely end in the accusations being filed away as false.

Most children in care make false accusations, since they often feel it is a way they can be returned to their parents. In the same respect, most parents who have children apprehended from them makes false accusations, because they see vilifying the foster parent as a way to get their kids back.

Social workers deal with this every day, and tricking them into doing something drastic would probably be about as hard as a homeless guy coming to your front door and trying to get your root password from you. Could it happen? Sure, but I would bet against every time.
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Also as a foster parent I can say for sure that you don't really want to be in foster care in most of the US, they tend not to have the same high standards that Canada does.

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Old 02-12-2012, 02:40 AM   #47
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Hyuk hyuk hyuk. I'ma gonna shoot this here compooter an show it on the video-tape so my chillrin know not to say nothin' bad about me. That'll learn 'em.

An' when she sellin' her ass on Hollywood Boo-ley-vard, it's her own damn fault if I buy it fer an hour.
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http://www.hell.tv/t/videos/8227/dear-daddy.html

Her response in a video....
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:18 PM   #49
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That family is obviously a lil screwed up. I can't believe she's 15, wtf is in the water down there?
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:24 PM   #50
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That's some pornstar... errr... aspiring actress.
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That's some pornstar... errr... aspiring actress.
Yes...either that or dad will put some bullet holes through the...um...object on her bed.
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I have no problem with him posting that video. The gun may have been a little over the top but the video is fine. The daughter obviously has done something like this before, was grounded, and that didn't seem to help so he stepped up the punishment a notch. Maybe this will get through to her a bit better.

As for the suicide watch, I don't think I'd be too worried about that. She seemed more like the spoiled brat type, not the emotional emo depressive type so i think she'll be fine. Besides, the father seems to be a smart guy and seems to be involved with his family, and knows about his daughters emotional state, so I think he'd likely be able to judge if this was something that would be within reason to do.

She tried to blast her parents on making her do some chores and they called her on it...
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:41 AM   #54
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Bad parents beget bad kids. The never-ending cycle of doom. Of course, since bad parents seems to breed prodigiously, they will soon outnumber us, and civilization will collapse.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:45 AM   #55
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My kid does something wrong with a toy, it goes into 'toy timeout', she does the same thing again and the toy goes directly into the garbage. I think his shooting the laptop mirrors that pretty much, so I fully support that his did that.

As for the public humiliation, my first reaction is that it was totally uncalled for, but then I realized SHE posted it in the public forum in the first place. She was making (apparently) exaggerated or false accusations in a public forum and he responded in a public forum. Tit for tat.




As a foster parent myself, everything I know about situations like that lead me to believe that the chances she would end up in care are crazy low, and him going to jail would be even lower. I have no doubt it would be investigated, but a single black eye that followed as a response to this allegation without any supporting history or other evidence of a pattern of abuse would likely end in the accusations being filed away as false.

Most children in care make false accusations, since they often feel it is a way they can be returned to their parents. In the same respect, most parents who have children apprehended from them makes false accusations, because they see vilifying the foster parent as a way to get their kids back.

Social workers deal with this every day, and tricking them into doing something drastic would probably be about as hard as a homeless guy coming to your front door and trying to get your root password from you. Could it happen? Sure, but I would bet against every time.
That's good info - I was mostly posting in jest.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:43 PM   #56
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Bad parents beget bad kids. The never-ending cycle of doom. Of course, since bad parents seems to breed prodigiously, they will soon outnumber us, and civilization will collapse.
No, this is not true at all. Great parents do not guarantee great children no do bad parents always end up with bad kids.
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Bad parents beget bad kids. The never-ending cycle of doom. Of course, since bad parents seems to breed prodigiously, they will soon outnumber us, and civilization will collapse.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:45 PM   #58
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I think this comment from the father's Q&A thread sums things up nicely. Note, this is from someone posting a comment, not the father:

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As I've commented before on the other forum, children are basically adults in training. It's the responsibility of the parent to instill values, respect and morals. If your too busy being a yummy mommy or pal dad, your are not doing your job. it's high time society took children off the pedestal and let parents teach their children how to be productive, well adjusted parts of society. I wish more parents were willing to teach their children the value of a dollar, because the way most of them are they will spend the rest of their lives bailing them out of debt. Let your child become an adult it's normal it's healthy, let's stop this peter pan syndrome society has adopted and stop making excuses for people who desperately need a kick in the posterior.

The number 1 excuse I've seen is I did it when I was that age, so that makes it right? you were corrected or you grew up and realized it's wrong.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:49 AM   #60
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Yeah here's a hint as to when you really, really need to re-think your parenting methods: they involve a handgun.
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