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Old 01-19-2012, 05:14 PM   #41
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:45 and 13:35...hmmmm whoops
Very observant!

The tip off for me was in the urban areas. All those apartments in Edmuntun, A noise like that and no one steps outside to see what's going on?

...No matter what time of day this was, It's Edmonton.....I know they were home!

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Old 01-19-2012, 05:38 PM   #42
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what about the same birds chirping in every video..
annoying if its viral i am boycotting that product/service
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:26 PM   #43
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I heard so such thing last night through I was working late, but if they were actual dragon noises I probably wouldn't be surprised as this is the year of the dragon.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:06 PM   #44
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Just more evidence supporting an already established fact that 2012 is the end.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:11 PM   #45
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what about the same birds chirping in every video..
annoying if its viral i am boycotting that product/service

Better than annoying tv commercials, at least this has some intrigue

I am assuming you've boycotted telus by now
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:33 PM   #46
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I googled the weird sounds in Kiev and had my evenings entertainment as I went through some of the craziest theories out there.

The topper is that the Aliens are removing their heavy mining equipment because they finally figured out that the earth was doomed.

Personally I think its a viral video for either the new Godzilla movie or the next Cloverfield movie that's been announced.

It does sound like the Cloverfield monster in the scene where he first appears between the movies in New York

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Old 01-19-2012, 11:37 PM   #47
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831387/

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Old 01-19-2012, 11:46 PM   #48
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Fake, fake, fake, fake.

Really GMG every time one of these videos pops up in a new location and people hype it up.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:46 AM   #49
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This is why skepticism should be a class taught to kids, and then again with teenagers.

Just reading Ben Goldacres bad science right now, got my blood boiling reading about some of the crap going on these days, one example would be the brain academy in the UK, how does this stuff happen with all our knowledge and a convenient way to test our ideas, the scientific method.

In Carl Saganīs demon haunted world he does a chapter on what he calls his balony detector kit, highlights below:

CARL SAGAN'S BALONEY DETECTION KIT

Based on the book The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan

The following are suggested as tools for testing arguments and detecting fallacious or fraudulent arguments:

  • Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts
  • Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
  • Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
  • Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
  • Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
  • Quantify, wherever possible.
  • If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
  • "Occam's razor" - if there are two hypothesis that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
  • Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?

Additional issues are
  • Conduct control experiments - especially "double blind" experiments where the person taking measurements is not aware of the test and control subjects.
  • Check for confounding factors - separate the variables.

Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric
  • Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
  • Argument from "authority".
  • Argument from adverse consequences (putting pressure on the decision maker by pointing out dire consequences of an "unfavourable" decision).
  • Appeal to ignorance (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence).
  • Special pleading (typically referring to god's will).
  • Begging the question (assuming an answer in the way the question is phrased).
  • Observational selection (counting the hits and forgetting the misses).
  • Statistics of small numbers (such as drawing conclusions from inadequate sample sizes).
  • Misunderstanding the nature of statistics (President Eisenhower expressing astonishment and alarm on discovering that fully half of all Americans have below average intelligence!)
  • Inconsistency (e.g. military expenditures based on worst case scenarios but scientific projections on environmental dangers thriftily ignored because they are not "proved").
  • Non sequitur - "it does not follow" - the logic falls down.
  • Post hoc, ergo propter hoc - "it happened after so it was caused by" - confusion of cause and effect.
  • Meaningless question ("what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?).
  • Excluded middle - considering only the two extremes in a range of possibilities (making the "other side" look worse than it really is).
  • Short-term v. long-term - a subset of excluded middle ("why pursue fundamental science when we have so huge a budget deficit?").
  • Slippery slope - a subset of excluded middle - unwarranted extrapolation of the effects (give an inch and they will take a mile).
  • Confusion of correlation and causation.
  • Straw man - caricaturing (or stereotyping) a position to make it easier to attack..
  • Suppressed evidence or half-truths.
  • Weasel words - for example, use of euphemisms for war such as "police action" to get around limitations on Presidential powers. "An important art of politicians is to find new names for institutions which under old names have become odious to the public"
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:53 PM   #51
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While I agree that skepticism is very important, its hilarious to see some people dismiss things so quickly.

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Old 01-26-2012, 10:13 PM   #52
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Its a hoax obviously. My god that is creepy though.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:24 PM   #53
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Another possible viral campaign would be for the new Mass Effect game. First time I heard it I immediately thought that the sound is a lot like the reapers from ME2.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:53 PM   #54
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its hilarious to see some people dismiss things so quickly.
logic works it's speedy ways
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:14 AM   #55
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Its a hoax obviously. My god that is creepy though.
Uh-oh "THEY" got to Canuck-Hater.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:55 AM   #56
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This guy says the hoax is based off a scene in the movie Red State:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=070_1...749&comments=1
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:01 AM   #57
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While I agree that skepticism is very important, its hilarious to see some people dismiss things so quickly.
We're not dismissing it, we're skeptical of it, theres a large difference.

Please watch:

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Didn't see this updated, just wanted to see what people think of this now that mainstream news (GLOBAL) has picked up on this after the sounds in North Battleford.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiTE43-Izi0
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