Man falls to his death at Texas Rangers game

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The stadium people are idiots and I hope there is a lawsuit and people lose their jobs.

But even if the family gets a bazillion dollars it can't bring a husband/dad back. Individuals also have to consider worst case scenarios.

Doesn't George Bush own the Rangers? SUE THE crap out of him!

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Doesn't George Bush own the Rangers? SUE THE crap out of him!

He sold the Rangers to become President!

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

reading/watching this story is just a horrible way to end my night. Sick to my stomach. God bless the many that will need to overcome this event!

If god was going to help he probably would've stepped in a little sooner.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I'm not sure people lean over all the time. They may reach out with an arm but that's about it. It's just a ball.

We see balls fouled down the first or third base line all the time and fans don't even lean over at ground level. The ballboys always end up tossing the balls to little kids.

Actually we see people lean over ALL the time. It's incredibly common. Any ball within reaching distance down the lines has someone reaching over for it, and often winding up on the field. This guy just happened to be quite a bit higher. Heck, we saw somebody fall 30 feet at this very stadium last year.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

If a bar is slightly obstructing the view at least you don't have two or three people plummeting to their death. Since when does a sight line matter that much? We have to deal with netting, glass, tv cameras and other things in the way all the time anyway. If its that big of a deal people can sit a row higher and avoid it entirely.

Point is, yes its up to a fan to ensure they are aware of the surroundings but its also very much on the team and stadium to ensure that instances like this don't occur by making safety precautions. Especially when you have a 2.5 to 3 foot railing as the only protection over a15 foot drop.

Since people pay money for tickets to watch the game? Sightlines are a huge deal, raising that railing isn't an option. Look at the upper levels at the Dome, those railings used to be much higher and have now been replaced by glass, and I still hate sitting anywhere that requires me to look through it.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Come on you guys. Stop the blame game. It is a tragic event.

How high are the railings at the Saddledome? If you guys think this is so important why don't you immediately call the Flames and demand they raise those bars higher.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Wow. That is so sad. I can't even imagine what it would be like watching a parent essentially die in front of my eyes. Especially in public.

If it was anything like watching a sibling (my sister), it will affect him for life. However, I do wish I was a lot younger when that happened, then it would not have been so vivid in my mind. I was 21.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

How high are the railings at the Saddledome? If you guys think this is so important why don't you immediately call the Flames and demand they raise those bars higher.

If memory serves, a guy fell over the railing at the Dome before. I think it was from the 200s to the 100s, and I think that he injured a person or two that he fell on. My memory is fuzzy on the details, but I know that it happened.

I'm not saying the the railing are too low or anything, but your post just reminded me of it.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by valo403

Actually we see people lean over ALL the time. It's incredibly common. Any ball within reaching distance down the lines has someone reaching over for it, and often winding up on the field. This guy just happened to be quite a bit higher. Heck, we saw somebody fall 30 feet at this very stadium last year.

Your last part is true, the stadium needs to be better protected.

But I watch alot of baseball games and rarely do I see a person down the line falling onto the field of play. Don't think I've seen a single one this year.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

Come on you guys. Stop the blame game. It is a tragic event.

I think everyone is well aware that it's a tragic event so thanks for pointing that out. But I don't think a discussion of what can be done to prevent something like this in the future should be stopped.

How high are the railings at the Saddledome? If you guys think this is so important why don't you immediately call the Flames and demand they raise those bars higher.

I think the chances of someone reaching for a puck in the upper level at the Saddledome are considerably less than reaching for a baseball at a ballpark.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Your last part is true, the stadium needs to be better protected.

But I watch alot of baseball games and rarely do I see a person down the line falling onto the field of play. Don't think I've seen a single one this year.

Maybe you should pay closer attention. I've been to half dozen Yankee games this year and seen it happen at half of them. I've also seen a number of fans tumbling onto the field clips show up on sportscenter this year, just as I have every year. It's very common.

[Thrillingbroom]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

Come on you guys. Stop the blame game. It is a tragic event.

How high are the railings at the Saddledome? If you guys think this is so important why don't you immediately call the Flames and demand they raise those bars higher.

Happened at a Sens game a few years, where a guy trip and fell from the 300s into the 200s.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/stor...-senators.html

[secol]

Originally Posted by valo403

Maybe you should pay closer attention. I've been to half dozen Yankee games this year and seen it happen at half of them. I've also seen a number of fans tumbling onto the field clips show up on sportscenter this year, just as I have every year. It's very common.

yeah its pretty common to see.....i think there was even a sportscenter top 10 with a few of those thrown in

[Ducay]

They need to put glass screens around all the C-Train stations and rubber walls along the length of 7th Ave in order to stop the unessential injuries/deaths.....oh, wrong thread.


They're called freak accidents for a reason, we might as well just start wearing bubble wrap clothing.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

I think everyone is well aware that it's a tragic event so thanks for pointing that out. But I don't think a discussion of what can be done to prevent something like this in the future should be stopped.



I think the chances of someone reaching for a puck in the upper level at the Saddledome are considerably less than reaching for a baseball at a ballpark.

My point is that people seem to come out and bad mouth the team after the event happens. So since these posters have all the answers and I assume they go to Flames games. Then they should get off their soap box and go to the Flames and makes sure they add nets and higher railings to make sure this doesn't happen in Calgary.

Everybody in each city should do this. Get out there before something tragic happens in your home city.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

My point is that people seem to come out and bad mouth the team after the event happens. So since these posters have all the answers and I assume they go to Flames games. Then they should get off their soap box and go to the Flames and makes sure they add nets and higher railings to make sure this doesn't happen in Calgary.

Everybody in each city should do this. Get out there before something tragic happens in your home city.

Your point is stupid because this wasn't the first incident of this type at that ballpark. It was the third time it has happened. What's more adding a net in the empty area between the stands and the fence is a lot easier than doing the same in a hockey arena.

So maybe get your facts straight before you get all sanctimonious, okay?

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

Your point is stupid because this wasn't the first incident of this type at that ballpark. It was the third time it has happened. What's more adding a net in the empty area between the stands and the fence is a lot easier than doing the same in a hockey arena.

So maybe get your facts straight before you get all sanctimonious, okay?

I am not being sanctimonious about it at all. I am saying if people think changes should be made then they should stand up and effect change now before another incident happens.

[Coys1882]

Sad this guy died - no way to go, but even worse that his young son watched his Dad fall to his death. Makes my stomach queasy thinking about it - parenthood has made me such a softie.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Ducay

They need to put glass screens around all the C-Train stations and rubber walls along the length of 7th Ave in order to stop the unessential injuries/deaths.....oh, wrong thread.


They're called freak accidents for a reason, we might as well just start wearing bubble wrap clothing.

This isn't a freak accident. A freak accident is having a helicopter crash and land on you when you are out getting the mail (like that kid in Cranbrook a few years ago).

This is something that can be analyzed, improved upon, and made safer. It was a death that occured within fairly normal conditions of what happens at the stadium and a baseball game. It has nothing to do with putting people in bubble wrap.

Burying your head in the sand and saying "oh well" serves no purpose.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

Your point is stupid because this wasn't the first incident of this type at that ballpark. It was the third time it has happened. What's more adding a net in the empty area between the stands and the fence is a lot easier than doing the same in a hockey arena.

So maybe get your facts straight before you get all sanctimonious, okay?

I had to google sanctimonious, but agreed 100%.

Fans don't lean over the 300's for pucks thrown by Jarome Iginla. Hockey fans rarely have any reason to lean over the railing.

In baseball this is a game by game occurence. Not only do fans lean over railings for balls they actually push and shove like that ball is worth millions. (sometimes it is)