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Old 07-15-2011, 02:45 PM   #41
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Yeah, let's just forget about adding those elite talents to the national program, instead go for guys who are okay with playing in the middle of nowhere, in front of nobody, with massive travel hurdles and third rate conditions. I'm sure we'll see a long list of guys who play professionally in Europe sign up for that plan. But hey, they like the cold. Nevermind the double digit ass kickings we'd get away from home with a side made up of afterthoughts.

It's a silly idea that would make Canadian soccer look like more of a joke than it already is.
Yes, there many challenges for Canadian soccer ahead that need to be overcome but if you look back at world cup history, see Bolivia and Ecuador for scheduling games in inhospitable locations to gain an advantage. It would be nothing new for the world cup and quite common.

I seem to remember an Italy-Russia game played in Moscow in late fall that could have easily been scheduled in a more southerly clime. Funny thing is the Italians still won the game on a snow covered pitch.

I don't think we have to get much past Edmonton to get a home game advantage though. I remember a very windy game in Edmonton where I could swear that Craig Forest pulled a ball out of the net that looked like a goal in a Canada - Panama game. The ball looked like it was heading for around the penalty dot and the wind was so strong it carried to the goal line.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:48 PM   #42
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Yes, there many challenges for Canadian soccer ahead that need to be overcome but if you look back at world cup history, see Bolivia and Ecuador for scheduling games in inhospitable locations to gain an advantage. It would be nothing new for the world cup and quite common.

I seem to remember an Italy-Russia game played in Moscow in late fall that could have easily been scheduled in a more southerly clime. Funny thing is the Italians still won the game on a snow covered pitch.

I don't think we have to get much past Edmonton to get a home game advantage though. I remember a very windy game in Edmonton where I could swear that Craig Forest pulled a ball out of the net that looked like a goal in a Canada - Panama game. The ball looked like it was heading for around the penalty dot and the wind was so strong it carried to the goal line.
As I recall, didnt Canada draw Brazil in Edmonton once? Granted it was a friendly, but I recall that Romario played.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:44 PM   #43
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As I recall, didnt Canada draw Brazil in Edmonton once? Granted it was a friendly, but I recall that Romario played.
Yes it was the 1994 World Cup warm-up for Brazil.



Bitter sweat memories for me because in qualification for the 1994 World Cup Canada was 45 minutes away from qualifying, and they haven't been anywhere near as good since.
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:55 AM   #45
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Woo! World Cup tomorrow with these big matchups in Asia

1st leg (home team listed first)
Thailand-Palestine
Lebanon-Bangladesh
China-Laos
Turkmenistan-Indonesia
Kuwait-Phillipines
Oman-Myanmar
Saudi Arabia-Hong Kong
Iran-Maldives
Syria-Tajikistan
Qatar-Vietnam
Iraq-Yemen
Singapore-Malaysia
Uzbekistan-Kyrgyzstan
UAE-India
Jordan-Nepal
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:39 PM   #46
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draw is tomoro for the groups that begin play this fall in Europe

1 from each pot to make 8 groups of 6 and 1 group of 5, winners advance and the next best 8 go to a playoff

Pot 1
Spain
Netherlands
Germany
England
Portugal
Italy
Croatia
Norway
Greece

Pot 2
France
Montenegro
Russia
Sweden
Denmark
Slovenia
Turkey
Serbia
Slovakia

Pot 3
Switzerland
Israel
Republic of Ireland
Belgium
Czech Republic
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Belarus
Ukraine
Hungary

Pot 4
Bulgaria
Romania
Georgia
Lithuania
Albania
Scotland
Northern Ireland
Austria
Poland

Pot 5
Armenia
Finland
Estonia
Cyprus
Latvia
Moldova
Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Azerbaijan
Faroe Islands

Pot 6
Wales
Liechtenstein
Iceland
Kazakhstan
Luxembourg
Malta
Andorra
San Marino
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:40 PM   #47
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hoping for

England
Denmark
Czechs
Scotland/Northern Ireland
Faroe Islands
San Marino
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:41 PM   #48
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in terms of who I think is the trickiest in each group

no one wants France from pot 2
I wouldn't want Belgium from pot 3
or Wales from 6

Toshack tried to destroy wales but they have two elite players in Ramsey and Bale and some good talent around them, could see them pushing for a playoff spot if they get in a favorable group
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I wouldn't want Turkey from Pot 2
I wouldn't want Bosnia from Pot 3

Long dangerous trips
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diane, wouldn't these qualifying groups start in fall 2012 and not this year?? Euro qualifying is wrapping up this fall and I don't they would have 2 qualifying campaings going on at once.


Norway in the Pot 1 surprises me. I would almost put all of Pot 2 ahead of the Norwegians. Norway has looked half decent in Euro qualifying, but they are far from qualified, and their recent past proves that they should not be a pot 1 team. Unless I'm missing something, this seems way out of whack to me.
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FIFA Rankings

Pot 1
1. Spain
2. Netherlands
3. Germany
6. England
7. Portugal
8. Italy
9. Croatia
12. Norway
13. Greece

Pot 2
15. France
17. Montenegro
18. Russia
19. Sweden
21. Denmark
22. Slovenia
24. Turkey
27. Serbia
29. Slovakia
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Old 07-30-2011, 08:29 AM   #52
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The thing I'm watching is CONCACAF, where does Canada go?

Round 2 (6 groups of 4, top team qualifies for Round 3)

Pot 4
Panama
CANADA
El Salvador
Grenada
Trinidad and Tobago
Haiti

Pot 5
Antigua and Barbuda
Guyana
Suriname
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Guatemala
Dominica

Pot 6
Puerto Rico
Barbados
Curacao
Saint Vincent and Grenadines
Cayman Islands
Nicaragua

Pot 7
Bermuda
Belize
Dominican Republic
Saint Lucia
Bahamas
US Virgin Islands

Avoid Guatemala and Nicaracua at all costs!

Round 3 (3 groups of 4, top 2 advance to Round 4)

Pot 1
USA
Mexico
Honduras

Pot 2
Jamaica
Costa Rica
Cuba

Pot 3
The 6 Group winners from Round 2

Avoid Costa Rica. Canada would not be able to beat Costa Rica + a power from Pot 1.
Must get Cuba, they don't belong in Pot 2.
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diane, wouldn't these qualifying groups start in fall 2012 and not this year?? Euro qualifying is wrapping up this fall and I don't they would have 2 qualifying campaings going on at once.


Norway in the Pot 1 surprises me. I would almost put all of Pot 2 ahead of the Norwegians. Norway has looked half decent in Euro qualifying, but they are far from qualified, and their recent past proves that they should not be a pot 1 team. Unless I'm missing something, this seems way out of whack to me.
ya my bad, it's after the Euro's

they used to draw it later which is what confused me
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CONCACAF draw is at 1:30 pm EST
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CONCACAF draw is at 1:30 pm EST
Yup! The entire draw starts very soon on CBC. I'm excited to see Brazil put on a show

Get ready to learn about countries you've never heard of!
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First draw of the afternoon.

Intercontinental Playoffs

Asia 5th place vs CONCACAF 4th place
South America 5th place vs Oceania 1st place
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Cote D'Ivoire and Morocco in the same group, that's rough.
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I'm pretty new to trying to follow soccer, and I've never realized how extensive these qualification processes are for big international tournaments like this. Watching this draw on TV is really interesting.
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Yup it has to be fair for everyone and there's 200+ countries to sort out!
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Being in the Barbados/Bermuda group B would be fun.. nice road trips

Canada needs to get into Group B Guyana/Barbados/Bermuda
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