Calgary Police fatally shoot a person in SE

[Flames_Gimp]

everyone knows the consequences of approaching a cop with a weapon.

[Nuje]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

everyone knows the consequences of approaching a cop with a weapon.

Yup. While they're people, they do have to follow their training for a giant list of reasons (their own safety, insurance, the law, etc.) Nobody ever says "oh, those C-train operators are just high on authority, hitting people that walk onto the train tracks and all!". But while it's a bit of a weird comparison, it's more or less the same thing. Enough of these have gone on for everyone to know that the police procedure for dealing with an armed individual who isn't obeying the police, is to shoot them.

I have all the sympathy in the world for any of the family and friends, but zero sympathy for the guy shot.

[chemgear]

I skimmed through the thread, hopefully this wasn't already posted:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

Peeace's family tells a different story, one that claims police intervention wasn't required.

They say one officer approached the door of the home and Peeace closed it as an indication to the officers they were not needed.

They do admit, however, he was holding a knife when the officers arrived. "He did, but he didn't charge at them," Cheyenne, Corey's niece said. "He just turned around and was so surprised to see them and they shot him four times."

Bill Criss, a neighbour, has seen it numerous times. "I can think of at least three fights that I was home for. And the neighbours, we've all been told just to call 911, not to bother with the non-emergency line."


I'm not sure how one claims the police "aren't needed" if somebody is holding a knife in a domestic dispute - but to be fair, I wasn't there so who knows.

Ironic perhaps, but also sad:

Peeace's family also said that Corey was suing the police over a Tasering incident that occurred over a year ago.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Dion

???

Having to shoot and kill someone would be a police officers nightmare.

An innocent someone maybe.

[metallicat]

All these dirtbags are good people according to their families. They are just in denial and probably oftentimes contributing to them not getting the necessary support or help to prevent stuff like this from happening.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by Nuje

Yup. While they're people, they do have to follow their training for a giant list of reasons (their own safety, insurance, the law, etc.) Nobody ever says "oh, those C-train operators are just high on authority, hitting people that walk onto the train tracks and all!". But while it's a bit of a weird comparison, it's more or less the same thing. Enough of these have gone on for everyone to know that the police procedure for dealing with an armed individual who isn't obeying the police, is to shoot them.

I have all the sympathy in the world for any of the family and friends, but zero sympathy for the guy shot.

That is a weird comparison, as C-train drivers aren't running over people in the name of safety or the law. Unless there is some sort of procedure inwhich train drivers have the authority to kill when somebody breaks transit law. Beware, those who do not buy train tickets!

[chemgear]

Here is the Herald's take on it:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Ca...819/story.html


Late-night parties, lawn fights, drunken misadventures and the sound of a woman screaming were common sights and sounds at the house where a 40-year-old man was shot and killed by police Friday night, according to neighbours.

Police had made several visits to the residence for domestic troubles and the victim had a criminal record, he said.

“You never knew what was going to happen over there next,” said neighbour Bill Criss. He and his wife were nervous about staying in the neighbourhood after they saw two young children who often came to visit lighting garbage piles in the yard with a propane tank.

The domestic situation was often violent, he said. Neighbours repeatedly called police when they heard the sounds of a woman screaming.

Over Victoria Day this year the home was the site of an all-long-weekend party with blaring rock music. Two years ago, a dozen partiers were arrested on the lawn.


versus comments from the the family:


“Why would you shoot Corey when he didn’t have a gun?” asked Doug Peeace, the victim’s uncle, from his home in Saskatchewan. “Why didn’t they use a Taser or something else? Why did they have to shoot him? Sometimes people have domestic disputes, but there’s no reason to go and shoot him.”

Doug Peeace said his nephew was an intelligent man who tried to do the right things in life.

“Corey was a nice person. He did right, he did right about everything, everything,” said Doug’s wife Carolyn.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

my friend was locked out so he had to come in the window... someone called the cops..swatt team and cops came with guns drawn...k9 unit, hawcs... and global tv and 660 news.... my friend was cuffed at gunpoint. crazy

Can't be that bad a neighbourhood if people care enough to call the cops. I broke into the 3rd story window of a condo after I locked myself out one day. I was surprised how easy it was, and how none of the people walking down the busy street called the police to report a guy on a ladder jimmying a window...

I am surprised they cuffed him at gunpoint and sent a helicopter though. That seems disproportionate to the situation.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Take it easy. If he keeps posting about it on the internet someone is bound to ask why. I am sure he has the ability to choose to tell me or not himself, and he doesn't need you flying to his defense, Superman.

Sigh...

Is everyone reading my posts in the voice of Killface?

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Is everyone reading my posts in the voice of Killface?

well, that is how you sound in person lol

[Nuje]

Originally Posted by Yasa

That is a weird comparison, as C-train drivers aren't running over people in the name of safety or the law. Unless there is some sort of procedure inwhich train drivers have the authority to kill when somebody breaks transit law. Beware, those who do not buy train tickets!

No, they're not. But while C-Train officers aren't supposed to break the law, or ignore safety regulations, that is not their primary job description. Their job is to move the train to where it's supposed to go (preferably on the tracks)

The police departments job is to uphold public safety, and the law. While there is no law or procedure for C-train drivers to kill all who disobey them, there IS a procedure for the police. Generally if someone's wielding a weapon and going towards the cops, they shoot if he's close enough. If there is time to request they drop the weapon, I believe they do that first, and upon disobeying, said idiot is riddled with bullets.

I agree the comparison was weird, but at the end of the day, people who die by C-train, or police gunfire (in the civilized world), generally did something wrong. To avoid getting hit by a train, well stay off the tracks. If you get hit by a derailed train, I can maybe understand that. To avoid getting shot by cops, don't threaten them with a weapon.

[billybob123]

Originally Posted by chemgear

I'm not sure how one claims the police "aren't needed" if somebody is holding a knife in a domestic dispute - but to be fair, I wasn't there so who knows.

Not to mention - you are a police officer sent in on a 911 hangup where there was direct threats heard over the phone (that's what Rick Hanson said yesterday on the news), you get there, and the guy (yes, the guy who was heard uttering the threats, a guy for whom the police have a long history of domestic problems) tells you to go away?

Yeah, I'm leaving right away... or not.

I know it's hard on families when their loved one is hurt or killed by the police, and the police can be out of hand, but I think this one is cut-and-dried justified.

Waiting for Mikey to chime in....

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

crazy day in this area today...

at 430am 3 men tried breaking in (picking the deadbolt) at my place. my alarm scared em off.

Um, since I'm looking for a place in Calgary, please tell me the area you live in so I can avoid it...

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Um, since I'm looking for a place in Calgary, please tell me the area you live in so I can avoid it...

$50 says it is one of the areas that I listed as trouble in the thread you started about moving to Calgary.

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Um, since I'm looking for a place in Calgary, please tell me the area you live in so I can avoid it...

Erin woods.

You most definatley want too stay away from there. Falls in line with the forest lawn area.

[OilKiller]

Damn, there are some pretty decent places, well priced in those areas...

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Damn, there are some pretty decent places, well priced in those areas...

There is a reason for that. It's a dumpy looking place as well no offense.

Your coming from Edmonton that place would be upscale there, I'm sure you can find decent price housing in better areas. Deep se has cheap homes and a nice area, just congested.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

There is a reason for that. It's a dumpy looking place as well no offense.

Your coming from Edmonton that place would be upscale there

LOL...c'mon now...here we go again. We live in a beautiful area in Edmonton.

I'm going to try and stick to the NW and SW when looking in Calgary, but it's going to be tough.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

LOL...c'mon now...here we go again. We live in a beautiful area in Edmonton.

I'm going to try and stick to the NW and SW when looking in Calgary, but it's going to be tough.

It's not as bad as people are making it seem. I've lived in Forest Lawn for 20 something years and have never had any problems aside from one break in to my garage. I can get to pretty much any part of the city in 15 minutes.

I always say that the criminals in Forest Lawn go do their dirty work in the NW and SW.