Wish it wasn't so relevant to today. A friend of mine has gotten roped into one of these things and unfortunately I wasn't able to talk any sense into him. He's doing ACN.
He posted a picture of him standing beside a Ferrari and a Lambo with something along the lines of "Which one should I choose? Be making that call in a couple of years #ACNproblems".
I hate to bump this thread because someone for no reason bumped it, but a friend of mine did this isagenix cleanse which he insisted help him lose about 10 pounds in 2 week or so. After doing some quick research I found it was produced by Amway. Does anyone have any experience with this product (isagenix)?
I hate to bump this thread because someone for no reason bumped it, but a friend of mine did this isagenix cleanse which he insisted help him lose about 10 pounds in 2 week or so. After doing some quick research I found it was produced by Amway. Does anyone have any experience with this product (isagenix)?
It doesnt work, clenses do nothing, the body can clense itself.
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Exactly. Cleanses do nothing for the body and some of them can actually be harmful for you, depriving you of balanced nutrition or worse overloading you on specific vitamins or worse substances.
Any specific product marketed as a cleanse or part of one will not do as much for you as eating a balanced meal and laying off the sauce.
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I hate to bump this thread because someone for no reason bumped it, but a friend of mine did this isagenix cleanse which he insisted help him lose about 10 pounds in 2 week or so. After doing some quick research I found it was produced by Amway. Does anyone have any experience with this product (isagenix)?
Yup and its 97% water loss and probably some lean muscle mass too, all bad.
Cleanses, Detox, are things all people should avoid, fasting is one thing you can do if you must since it has shown benefits scientifically speaking but these juice fasts, detox, cleanses you see offered in stores are generally just bunk crap that does more harm than anything.
A fundamental premise held by believers in “alternative” health is that we are swimming in a world of “toxins” and those “toxins” are causing disease. Like most premises in “alternative” health it has no basis in scientific fact; makes intuitive sense only if you are ignorant of medicine, science and statistics; and speaks to primitive fears and impulses.
Toxins serve the same explanatory purpose as evil humours and miasmas. They are invisible, but all around us. They constantly threaten people, often people who unaware of their very existence. They are no longer viewed as evil in themselves, but it is axiomatic that they have be released into our environment by “evil” corporations.
There’s just one problem. “Toxins” are a figment of the imagination, in the exact same way that evil humours and miasmas were figments of the imagination.
The height of inanity is the belief in “detoxifying” diets and colon cleansing. The human body does not produce “toxins.” That’s just a superstition of the “alternative” health community. The waste products produced by the human body are easily metabolized by organs such as the liver, and excreted by organs particularly designed for that purpose such as the kidneys.
“Alternative” health practitioners are nothing more than quacks and charlatans and their “remedies” are nothing more than snake oil. The fact that anyone in this day and age still believes in such crackpot theories is a tribute to the power of ignorance and superstition.
Any product or service with the words “detox” or “cleanse” in the name is only truly effective at cleansing your wallet of cash. Alternative medicine’s ideas of detoxification and cleansing have no basis in reality. There’s no published evidence to suggest that detox treatments, kits or rituals have any effect on our body’s ability to eliminate waste products effectively. They do have the ability to harm however – not only direct effects, like coffee enemas and purgatives, but the broader distraction away from the reality of how the body actually works and what we need to do to keep it healthy. “Detox” focuses attention on irrelevant issues, and gives consumers the impression that they can undo lifestyle decisions with quick fixes. Improved health isn’t found in a box of herbs, a bottle of homeopathy, or a bag of coffee pushed into your rectum. The lifestyle implications of a poor diet, lack of exercise, smoking, lack of sleep, and alcohol or drug use cannot simply be flushed or purged away. Our kidneys and liver don’t need a detox treatment. If anyone suggests a detox or cleanse to you, you’d do well to ignore the suggestion, and question any other health advice they may offer.
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Yup and its 97% water loss and probably some lean muscle mass too, all bad.
Cleanses, Detox, are things all people should avoid, fasting is one thing you can do if you must since it has shown benefits scientifically speaking but these juice fasts, detox, cleanses you see offered in stores are generally just bunk crap that does more harm than anything.
What are some of the benefits associated with fasting?
I know fasting can be dangerous to several body types. For instance I was told never to do it because it can be very stressful to the heart.
Yeah its early on but the best doc I've seen on it was on BBC's Horizon in which it was covered, again I'm weary of it and would not recommend it to anyone but the 5 2 has really started to gain steam which again for me sends of alarm bells lol.
Also here's a bunch of Pubmed stuff if you want to try to find some related studies.[/url]
There's actually a surprising amount of decent research done on it (while granted still in it's infancy). I try to stick to the 16/8 schedule at 50-75% of the year.
I know someone roped in as well as owners with stores for pyramid schemes. Actually, technically these people joined willingly after seeing "success stories" of other members. You can't persuade them. They go to workshops to learn how to be brain washed and how to deflect all your persuasion.
From what I heard, consumer reports did a report on some of the Amway products. The products were ranked quite high, but the consumer report also discussed the fact it was way over priced in comparison. But hey, some people argue they're selling not products, but a way of life. Their products aren't garbage, but I definitely would not pay money for it.
Like 10-11 years ago before I got a real job, I was managing a coffee shop downtown and was approached by a regular who said they had a job offer for me.
Being young and sort-of naive I set up a "meeting" with them at a nearby restaurant for the following day. I showed up, and was promptly bombarded with Primerica baloney. I kept asking "well, what are we selling?" and they kept deflecting. Eventually they got around to the "recruiting" portion of the job, and I said "Soooo this is a pyramid scheme?" and they just. shut. down.
